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[Boeing 77W]

Ryanair Staff

I would be interested in further clarification from FR staff.

From a flight crew perspective, there are very few who are actually employed by Ryanair. Currently, all pilots set up their own Irish Private Limited Company. You then sign a five year contract with Brookfield Aviation whereby you agree to outsource your companies services to one of their clients, in this case Ryanair. As the only qualified employee of your company (has to be registered in Ireland) you do the work. Once the five years is up, and if they choose, you can then be employed directly by Ryanair in Dublin. Basically to start with your self-employed.

I believe there is a similar deal with Cabin Crew whereby, once trained through external organisations, CC are employed by a CC agency such as Crewlink and Workforce.

Then when you take into consideration the ground handling roles, which are all outsourced...I'm not too sure where the comment below comes from...

"I work for Ryanair Uk Ltd (as do ALL Ryanair staff within the UK) And we pay tax NI ect, ect just like you!"

Hope that clarifies things!

[FR-]

Cabin crew tend to be 50:50, i myself have a fr contract and have done for a few years now, the other 50% of cabin crew are with crewlink or workforce. And for the pilots, it depends on what base you are for the % of f/d on an fr contract. EMA does have a high number due to EMT staff flying out of EMA, but again its still about 50:50.


Last time i check the number ryanair had on its books was 7,828

[Boeing 77W]

Cheers FR

I'm still somewhat of a newbie!

[Jamie2k9]

Ryanair to announce cuts tomorrow (Oct 27) at all German bases. A press conference in Frankfurt. It also looks like Frankfurt Hahn will be the worst hit.

[DILLTHEDOG]

FR Flights canx 28th Oct 2010

Just had an email from a friend with a list of 240 Ryanair flights / sectors cancelled on Thursday due to French ATC strike ??

How many Pax is that going to P off ?

[Jamie2k9]

At least 50,000 passengers

[jpthomas72]

HHN cuts...

Some news coming through now about a 30% cuts at HHN for summer 2011 compared to summer 2010. Being a former frequent user of HHN, I should say that compared to last summer, there were already many cuts anyway, e.g. BHX, MAN, BTS, PRG. So the real effect is smaller, still nearly 3 million passengers at HHN. They seemed to have run out of ideas for their trial-and-error route planning at HHN, which drove people back into the hands of more predictable companies at FRA and CGN, even LUX. HHN can't be too disappointed about this, and maybe talk a bit more to Wizzair. As every passenger at HHN costs the tax-payer money (15 million deficit per year), one might even wonder if less passengers (flight movements) mean less deficit ?

[jpthomas72]

... HHN cuts ...

Unofficially rumoured: Cuts for summer 2011 are:
Agadir, Berlin-Schönefeld, Danzig, Göteborg, Klagenfurt, Prag, Santiago de Compostela, Sevilla und Breslau. If true: Klagenfurt was always on the brink, lived on Austrian tax money plus now the Austrians also have air-tax. Prague and Santiago was already cut anyway. Berlin is no surprise, never made money and is hit hard by German air-tax and VAT. Gdansk and Breslau/Wroclaw are a loss though. Expect Wizzair to look at this, they have a strong Polish base. HHN will then become 'every village in Italy and Spain plus Stansted and a little Ireland'. How imaginative... 'Auf Wiedersehen, Lufthansa !' of course means 'See you again !', not 'Goodbye'. Some smiles today at the LH/4U and AB HQs...

[Jippie]

Danzig is the German name for Gdánsk. The same is true for Breslau.
To immediately say jpthomas72 is 'deliberately trying to be offensive' is an exaggerated response in my view, probably there's just something lost in translation.

[virginblue]

It is simply a problem of "copying & pasting" and not identifying that the text is not genuin, but was copied from a German website (which uses the German names).

Certainly nothing political.

[boeing767]

The current 532 flights/week from HHN are going to be reduced to 382 next summer. Approximately 1,000 jobs will be lost at HHN. Number of passengers will drop with a million to 2,9 million.

Luchtvaartnieuws: dagelijks actueel luchtvaartnieuws

[babemagnet]

Irish budget carrier Ryanair is blaming the introduction of a controversial German aviation tax after deciding to cut more than a quarter of its flights from its base at Frankfurt Hahn.
The airline is to reduce its stationed fleet at Hahn from 11 Boeing 737 aircraft to eight from summer 2011 and close nine routes: Agadir, Berlin, Gdansk, Gothenburg, Klagenfurt, Prague, Santiago, Seville and Wroclaw.
It says the capacity reduction will also mean operating 382 flights per week from the airport compared with over 530 currently.
Ryanair adds that it will cut 150 pilot and cabin crew positions as a result. The airline says the new German tax of €8 ($11) makes the country an "uncompetitive tourist destination".
It will transfer the three 737s to bases outside of Germany. Ryanair says the German Government should study the "damaging impact" of similar taxes imposed elsewhere in Europe and withdraw the charges, which have also been strongly criticised by German carriers.

[virginblue]

This "1.000" jobs mantra is the usual Ryanair propaganda. The airport has already said only 150 jobs are directly affected and that the airport will not make anyone redundant, but look for other pax and cargo carriers.

[Beanbag]

RYR to fire 150 crew at Hahn

1000 jobs going in total apparently. Blaming a new €8 tax. Anyone believe that's really the reason?
Ryanair axes 1,000 jobs at German airport - Business News, Business - The Independent

[threemiles]

Crews won't be fired but go elsewhere with the planes.
FR is punishing the government with their immense purchasing power and right they are.
The tax is ridicoulous and the steep upturn in air traffic this fall will have its imemdiate end beginning next year in Germany.

[ROSCO328]

Smoke and mirrors! Who gives a s**t.

[One Outsider]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuy

there is a difference.

True, one starts with an R the other with an F. Meanwhile you're still out of a job.

[GlueBall]

Sounds more like a smoke screen, a convenient excuse to reduce capacity in a market of overcapacity. The £7 tourist tax is not exclusive to Michael O'Leary's train set; it affects all carriers, where the new £7 tax becomes part of the cost of doing business. What will MOL do when the rest of the world adopts a tourist tax.....stop flying? Duh.

[Nightrider]

While we all can easily accept that this tax is absolutely nonsense, the aeroplanes will move elsewhere, new routes will be announced, crew will shift, this IAW contracts..... "the employer reserves the right to change the base ....". Floating bases are anyway FRs policy....

[No RYR for me]

Nothing new.... All part of ryanair negotiations... If we dont get what we want we leave...

Ireland 02/09
News : Ryanair Announces Flight & Job Cuts at Dublin Airport

Man 08/09
News : Ryanair to Switch/Close 9 of 10 Manchester Routes

UK 06/10
News : Ryanair Cuts UK Winter Capacity by 16%

Shannon 09/10
News : Ryanair Cuts Shannon Flights by 21%