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Old 27th Sep 2010, 07:34
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The end of million seat sales

I noticed the seat sale for last weekend for 5 euros was for only 1/2 million seats for the dead period in October/november. Last year the offer was for a million seats. Given higher fuel costs, taxes and landing fees these offers must be on the way out. Instead of dumping spare seats at a loss the airline is likely to cut flights in quite periods and give in on growth targets.
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Old 27th Sep 2010, 09:03
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@ flying to big airports
It really looks more like a verbal slogan than an imminent move. Ryanair has just canceled all its slots reservations at CPH Go new low-cost terminal at Kastrup (formerly called SWIFT). So far the 200 million DKK (€13.5 million) investment didn't attract any other carrier but easyJet.

@ winter schedule reductions
Sometimes non-experts can summarize the developments very well. Look at two of the opinions from Finnish Travel forums concerning the discontinuation of the routes from Tampere to Malaga and Bergamo (translated by me).
“They terminate routes where the planes are always full and prices are same as with the legacy carriers, are they idiots or what?”
“Flights to Malaga sell for over 250 euros one way. If that's not profitable is Ryanair a true low-cost carrier indeed?”
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Old 27th Sep 2010, 17:25
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Ryanair is confident that its present negotiations in Lisbon will lead to the creation of a new Ryanair base at Portela Airport (LIS/LPPT) next year. "We are confident that our discussions will have a good result, " said Ryanair's Daniel de Carvalho at the press conference, explaining that "the main Achilles heel is related to operational issues" (25 min. turnaround time). The problem could be solved by using the domestic terminal, we learn. De Carvalho thinks Ryanair could start flying to Lisbon by next summer.
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“They terminate routes where the planes are always full and prices are same as with the legacy carriers, are they idiots or what?”
I guess that the criteria which routes to axe (for the winter or generally) could be more simple than we think. Like: no marketing support - no flights. As the above example shows, it's possibly not always the best rule from the economical point of view. In some cases it could be a "matter of principle", though.
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 15:03
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Flitefone - that clip has been posted on PPrune a few times now.
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 15:09
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and this has what to do with ryanairs operation?
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 15:38
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factual posts, please!

Now THIS is funny
Funny, huh? What about Jet Blast? Pretty disturbing here.
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 16:20
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anyhoo... Bloomberg and a few other news websites came up with an article regarding Ryanair expanding into Georgia, subject to the upgrading and improvements of various airports in the country. Does this article have an element of truth to it since Ryanair now seem to slowly expand their services in the eastern parts of europe?Or are we going to see more expansion in Greece, Cyprus,North Africa or central/eastern europe?

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Old 28th Sep 2010, 16:28
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ryanair prosecuted in France

AFP: French court charges Ryanair over employment law

Does MOL will close MRS base as previously stated ?
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 18:10
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Kerry - Dublin flights

dep KIR - 09:25 - arr DUB - 10:15
dep DUB - 16:45 - arr KIR - 17:35
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 20:12
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Cancelled Flights

Ryanair have cancelled 306 flights tomorrow.
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 20:45
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Belgian ATC went on wildcat strike today at 1400, due to last until tomorrow 1400.
All flights cancelled at CRL, including a lot of FR flights.
Strike has just been cancelled as from 2200 today.
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 21:05
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Ryanair have cancelled 306 flights tomorrow.
Also strikes confirmed in Spain.
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 08:25
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Rumour: FR will open a route from Weeze to a city in the Baltic states. But KUN and RIX are routes from NRN. Will they go to Tallinn or somewhere else?
Tallinn Airport will get a 65 mln kroons cash injection from the state :: The Baltic Course | Baltic States news & analytics
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 08:57
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Racedo is correct on the PSO issue. Governments cannot subsidise routes which are being flown commercially. Given the two different schedules mentioned, the Kerry to Dublin business trips are facilitated, which are the main market. In any event, after our budget in December, I don't think there will be any PSO servies in Ireland apart from (possibly) a Derry - Dub - Donegal - Dub - Derry type rotation. Kerry / Shannnon / Galway now have motorway links which mean centre-centre journeys are faster than air; Sligo rail services have been vastly improved, and NOC is in the middle of nowhere with no large city nearby. And the government is broke (bonds now at around 6.8% and rising).

Oh, and to the poster who suggested RYR are upsetting the Irish govt over Belfast City, I think not - it is in a different country!

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Old 29th Sep 2010, 09:54
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RYR are upsetting the Irish govt over Belfast City, I think not - it is in a different country!
Different jurisdiction of course (ergo no tax implications) but I'm not sure the Irish government view it as a different country, afterall they operate a PSO to LDY.

I don't think there will be any PSO servies in Ireland apart from (possibly) a Derry - Dub - Donegal - Dub - Derry type rotation
The load factors on LDY-DUB are very poor (average 9 pax) - it will get the chop also:

the government is broke
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 10:19
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but I'm not sure the Irish government view it as a different country, afterall they operate a PSO to LDY.
Not to make this political, as it's an aviation forum for crying out loud, but to clear up a point mentioned previously. From the Good Friday Agreement:

Articles 2 and 3 of the Irish constitution are to be re-worded so that there is no longer a territorial claim over Northern Ireland. Instead, the constitution is to support the right to electoral consent. It will also declare that Irish laws only apply to the 26 counties and not to all 32 as previously asserted.
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 16:39
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but I'm not sure the Irish government view it as a different country, afterall they operate a PSO to LDY.
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LDY serves not only NI, but also a significant part of northern Donegal, an area which is always agitating about lack of access to the rest of the Republic thanks to history. Hence my thought that both Derry and Donegal may survive as a single aircraft operation - I did witness a lunchtime Donegal rotation there a couple of years ago, and it appeared well loaded (on an ATR42). Didn't realise Derry was so poor - seems surprising, although roads are not too bad now I suppose via Belfast.

The other potential option is Manx2 operating something commercially, as they seem to be looking at niche markets albeit avoiding DUB to date. That is thread drift though, so I'll stop now

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Old 29th Sep 2010, 20:50
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HI. Should the P.S.O remaind after the next budget. Ithink it should be Donegal and Sligo with the one aircraft twice daily and a new one for shannon as its need a lifeline but still has a motorway. Waterford should get one as well to serve the sunny south east. Galway has the motorway. Kerry has ryanair. Knock can survive without it but would be a help to get one. Derry has poor pax number so it will cost too much. What about Belfast int instead of Derry?
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 20:56
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What about Belfast int instead of Derry?
Airnoc, do you actually understand the purpose of the PSO routes? And furthermore, what has it got to do with Ryanair? (This is the Ryanair thread after all).
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 21:33
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As a matter of interest are the 120+ Ryanair employees in MRS (and elsewhere?) who seemingly pay their taxes, social security and pensions payments in Ireland included in the central statistics office Ireland employment statistics for the ROI? If so then surely a distortion of employment figures here. I understand these 120 individuals are French living in France.
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