Ryanair - 7

[shamrock7seal]

BOH

BOH carried 128,000 pax apparently in 2008 between PIK and BOH and at one point there were 4 flights a day from BOH to Scotland; 2 to EDI and 2 to GLA.

I find it hard to believe that the routes worked well for 5 years but suddenly didnt and had to be dropped? Surely thats a sign of poor flight times or too much capacity?

[frfly]

EDI BOH will probably go back to EDI based unit. A/C 5 should be announced shortly and the schedules finalised. Usually a/c operates LCJ/WRO AGP BOH in a day, TuThSaSu, however this is subject to change, as I thnk WRO has been dropped from EDI. FR are always chopping and changing schedules, I would expect the finalised one to be complete by end of January. I would aslo expect more Sun destinations from FR from EDI with the end of GSM. Dublin are probably finalising schedules to accomodate increases to AGP, ALC, PMI etc. Wouldnt be surprised if AGP and ALC went daily now.

[jferreira20]

Ryanair's growth

It's ridiculous to think that FR will continue to grow as they are doing right know.

But the truth is that it could grow much more. There are lots of destinations not served or underserved that could sustain a high growth rate. For example: sun destinations like Egypt, Greek Islands, Madeira, Tunisia and so on.

They could also start flying to Slovenia, Bulgaria, Cyprus. They could invest a lot more in Porto, Prague, Romania. And there is also the opportunity of longer flights. Connections from Portugal to Cape Verde. Connecton to the USA, and so on.

[Hombre]

St Stephen's Day: 26 December, Boxing Day

St Stephen, the First Martyr (Stoned to death): Patron Saint of .....wait for it......Altar Servers.

(I even have a silver St Stephen medal somewhere for ten years' service!!) And, no, never had a dodgy priest. Got a lot of sweets though

Feliz Navidad para todos.

[eu01]

Originally Posted by jferreira20

It's ridiculous to think that FR will continue to grow as they are doing right know.
But the truth is that it could grow much more.

Many of these potential destinations you mentioned are distant ones, less attractive from the lcc's point of view. Of course one can calculate a number of options, if it pays. I'd rather concentrate on improving the product to appeal to a broader range of passengers. In many ways; improving the way people perceive the brand, addressing business travellers, refining the schedules. More controversial remains the question of connecting flights, in some(!) cases it also could be considered as a viable minimal-risk option bringing new streams of pax, though.

They could also start flying to Slovenia, Bulgaria, Cyprus.

Actually, they used to fly to Slovenia a couple of years ago (to Maribor) and withdrew.

Feliz Natal!

At the end I'll show you the curiosity I've found today. The Financial publishes Ryanairs reaction tp BAA appeal on monopoly break-up. It's a copy of a Ryanair News Release, with one exception:

Ryanair:

Ryanair, Britain’s favourite airline, today (21 Dec 2009) said it was deeply disappointed by the decision of the Competition Appeals Tribunal to allow part of the appeal by the BAA monopoly...

The Financial:

Ryanair, Britain’s one of the favourite airlines, today (21 Dec 2009) said it was deeply disappointed by the decision of the Competition Appeals Tribunal to allow part of the appeal by the BAA monopoly...

Merry Christmas to all!

[Master_Dn]

I think that the only way to reach the USA is from the Azores. Ryanair's Boeing 738 range would not be enough to reach the USA from London in safety. From Boeing's website we know that the maximum range is 3060 nm and from STN to JFK we have 3016 nm. From Lages (TER) in Azores to JFK it's only 2139 nm. The longest FR route at the moment is from AGP to TMP and has 1824 nm. From OPO to Lages ( TER ) it's 860 nm and from STN to Lages ( TER ) it's 1386 nm.
FR could have a route from the USA to the Azores, which would be very useful for Portuguese emigration and at the same time a link to Europe.
Niagara Falls (IAG) to Lages (TER) would be 2335 nm.

Greece, Egypt and Madeira on the other hand, would be interesting destinations as Ryanair is trying to enter the charter market...

From OPO to Sal ( SID ) in Cape Verde, it's 1642 nm so it's a possibility in a far future.

[ICING AOA]

Ryanair is about to open a new route between corsica and spain, probably Figari-Gerona or Figari-Reus.

[lfc84]

bbc reporting ryanair plane overshoots prestwick runway. all 129 off.

[h&s]

Ryanair is about to open a new route between corsica and spain, probably Figari-Gerona or Figari-Reus.

If true, it would be a new clear evidence that the "state subsidised" strategy of the airline generates non sense/uneconomical decisions, as there is a very very tiny market for a route such as Gerona/BCN to Figari even considering the few VFR from Perpignan area. It would be as a disaster as for Figari Bergamo which exists has been operated less than 5 months!

[h&s]

It would make sense for FR to go back to offering PIK-BOH. It was always an extremely popular route and I never understood why it was cancelled.

Popular? well, it was cancelled because it was not performing well. Actually, it was not bad when 1x day, but then they increased to 2x day. I remember the (non sense) fanfare of the announcement and Sean Coyle saying it was to accomodate business passengers (business passengers, on Bournemouth Prestwick???) and to offer an alternative to very high fares Flybe service. On this forum I said 2x day was non sense, PIKBOH was not a business route and business men will hardly never give up a SOHGLA for a BOHPIK. Few months later, Ryanair totally cut the route
And flybe is still there

[XSBaggage]

I always seem to remember the PIK-BOH route being busy when the flight was daily in the early afternoon. The morning flight from BOH when it went 2 x daily always appeared very quiet. Often FR seem to just "join the dots" on a map of Europe with apparent randomness and the route works but on others some refinement is required, PIK and EDI to BOH being good examples. Its not a case of "fly the route and they shall book" all the time, some regard to scheduling (which was not given) was required here, and the routes have been discontinued.

XSB

[Random Flyer]

Popular? well, it was cancelled because it was not performing well. Actually, it was not bad when 1x day, but then they increased to 2x day.

It performed well at once daily, so much so that Ryanair thought it would work at twice daily. It didn’t. So it would have made more sense to put it back to once daily rather than completely cut the route.

[Random Flyer]

Ryanair’s chopping and changing of routes seems very odd at times. The most recent example I can think of is Glasgow to France. The airline recently cancelled its PIK-Marseille route and replaced it with a PIK-Carcassonne route. Surely PIK-Marseille would be a far stronger route than PIK-Carcassonne?

It also appears PIK-TRP is for the scrap.

[ICING AOA]

Quote:
Ryanair is about to open a new route between corsica and spain, probably Figari-Gerona or Figari-Reus.
If true, it would be a new clear evidence that the "state subsidised" strategy of the airline generates non sense/uneconomical decisions, as there is a very very tiny market for a route such as Gerona/BCN to Figari even considering the few VFR from Perpignan area. It would be as a disaster as for Figari Bergamo which exists has been operated less than 5 months!

You are kidding? look at Gerona-Alghero, it works very well. But also lots of spaniards want to go to corsica, the problem is that it is extremely expensive and they only options are to drive down to Marseille, Toulon, or Nice, that s 4 hours drive from the pyrenees. They can also take air france at MRS, ORY or NCE and this is the same sh.it, expensive and long journey.
I dont understand why ryanair opened Figary-Milan or Figari-Brussels, but for sure Firgari-Barcelona, Figari-Paris, could well be a big success. Anyway, the monney comes from the region of Figari, not from MOL's bank account.

[eu01]

A new fuss in Italy!

Ryanair annuncia la chiusura temporanea delle rotte domestiche da 10 basi italiane

All domestic routes in Italy will cease to operate from Saturday, January 23. It's the result of ongoing row with ENAC concerning the ID identification requirements. ENAC wants Ryanair to accept a variety of less secure forms of identification on domestic Italian flights.

The original Ryanair announcement (in Italian) can be found here.

Blackmailing again. For a reason, perhaps, but what about their pax?

[Noxegon]

Shrug, I never figured why a passport was a requirement in the first place. Various other forms of ID were acceptable right up until Ryanair went 100% online checkin. I can only assume the reason they're not now is due to laziness in coding the online checkin system.

[jferreira20]

I never needed passport. Always Identity Card.

[eu01]

Originally Posted by jferreira20

I never needed passport. Always Identity Card.

Ryanair say ENAC wants them to accept driver's licenses, fishing licenses etc.

[FA10]

I think that the only way to reach the USA is from the Azores. Ryanair's Boeing 738 range would not be enough to reach the USA from London in safety. From Boeing's website we know that the maximum range is 3060 nm and from STN to JFK we have 3016 nm. From Lages (TER) in Azores to JFK it's only 2139 nm. The longest FR route at the moment is from AGP to TMP and has 1824 nm.

Europe to Lajes would work, however Lajes to US is not possible with the 737 because of missing ETOPS approval.
It is simply not allowed to fly over such a large pond without good ("suitable") alternate airports on the way!

[Keyvon]

Please stop dreaming about improbable long-haul routes to NA with intermediate stop in Azores Islands or anywhere else 'cause it's to going to happen at any time.

MO'L clearly stated several times that Ryanair is not going to operate any flight to the States with their own metal anytime soon.