Ryanair - 7

[thebig C]

Hey EI-BUD

Completely concur about the need for Ryanair to operate a second smaller ac. The 738 is just too big for alot of routes. Also, a more economical plane might actually open up new routes from some of the smaller airports they service. As an aside I would say pretty much the same about Aer Lingus and the A320.

As for Ryanair fly to Russia, is this 100% because I have been hearing that rumour for at least 3.5-4 years

C

[jferreira20]

Faro's set to be announced tomorrow.

[Skipness One Echo]

a more economical plane might actually open up new routes from some of the smaller airports they service

Blah blah blah except the Ryanair model works on the economies of scale of not doing precisely this. Occam's razor can be very effective. It keeps crewing and costs down.

[Leo Hairy-Camel]

Faro and Malaga to be announced as bases tomorrow.

Sunshine and water anyone? Anyone.....?

[GnRdL]

News in AGP & FAO

News for tomorrow (in Spanish):

News in Málaga:

16-Dec-2009

- 09,30 horas: en Málaga, el presidente de Ryanair, Michael O'Leary, anuncia novedades de la línea aérea de bajo coste para Málaga. En la sala de prensa del aeropuerto de Málaga.

Agenda 16-december-2009

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And then in Faro (in Portuguese):

News in Faro:

O secretário de Estado do Turismo Bernardo Trindade participa amanhã, dia 16, às 10h00, na apresentação do importante aumento da capacidade aérea do Aeroporto de Faro, no âmbito do Programa Iniciative.pt.

[...]

As 25 novas ligações aéreas reforçam, ainda segundo a mesma nota, «o comprometimento do Governo no desenvolvimento das diversas regiões, bem como a aposta por parte das companhias aéreas em Portugal».

Esta apresentação será seguida de uma conferência de imprensa, que contará com a companhia aérea lowcost Ryanair.

News in Faro

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[Charlie Roy]

So according to that article 25 new routes for Faro. That's a huge number of routes.
I'm guessing a lot of France, Germany, UK and Scandinavia. Not forgetting Eindhoven.
(Maybe they mean a total of 25 Ryanair routes from Faro? Wait and see I suppose...)

Malaga press conference at 8:30am GMT, Faro at 10:00am GMT.

[Jippie]

Would be interesting though if they go to EIN from FAO (and maybe AGP).
Some years ago transavia.com started EIN-ALC/AGP/FAO to "stop ryanair going into every market" as they said.
This winter Ryanair started EIN-ALC in direct competition to transavia.com and now FAO and AGP could come as well. There's no way that transavia.com can sustain these flights, but ALC-EIN was the first route in direct competition and maybe they're happy with the results(and transavia.com isn't).

[Master_Dn]

Faro - Paris (Beauvais)
Faro - Madrid
Faro - Marselle
Faro - Milan (Bergamo)
Faro - Eindhoven
Faro - Birmingham
Faro - Maastricht
Faro - Billund
Faro - Stockholm (Skavsta)
Faro - Oslo (Rygge)
Faro - Memmingen (Munich West)
Malaga - Krakow
Malaga - Paris(Beauvais)
Malaga - Berlin
Malaga - Bratislava
Malaga - Maastricht
Malaga - Eindhoven
Malaga - Gothenburg City
Málaga - Santiago
Malaga - Santander
Malaga - Aarhus
Malaga - Zaragoza
Malaga - Tampere

edit: add

Faro - Knock
Faro - Kerry
Faro - Derry
Malaga - Valladolid
Malaga - Memmingen (Munich West)

and maybe more to come...

[Charlie Roy]

Malaga - Tampere

• pee will be in his element
• 11 new routes for Faro brings the total there to 25.
• 12 new routes for Malaga brings the total there to 32.
• Indeed Transavia won't be happy to see Eindhoven and Maastricht getting new routes from the 2 new bases.
• Beauvais will be happy to have 2 new routes.
• Torp must be disgusted Ryanair have found a new favourite in Rygge.
• Faro to Madrid to be reintroduced it seems.
• But yes, maybe more to come. New Ryanair route(s) to be announced for Knock tomorrow, so I was expecting Knock to be included in these Faro/Malaga base announcements...

[davidjohnson6]

Assuming this all comes to fruition tomorrow (and I have no reason to believe otherwise), 14 new routes from Faro, 14 new routes from Malaga and 7 new routes from Alicante all announced in a 10 day period seems to indicate one big new bet on beach routes to the Iberian peninsula.

I'm sure FR know what they're doing though !

[jferreira20]

Ryanair ANNOUNCES 38th BASE AT Malaga

4 aircraft, 39 routes and 2M passengerS P.A. from 2010

Ryanair today (16th Dec 09) announced it would open its 38th base at Malaga in June 2010 with 4 based aircraft and 19 new routes (39 in total) being launched. Ryanair will create over 200 direct jobs and offer 360 weekly flights to/from Malaga in an investment of over $250 million in the airport.

Ryanair's 19 new routes from Malaga to Aarhus, Berlin (Schonefeld), Bratislava, Eindhoven, Gothenburg, Krakow, Maastricht, Memmingen (Munich West), Oslo (Torp), Paris (Beauvais), Pisa, Santander, Santiago, Stockholm (Skavsta), Tampere, Valladolid, Venice (Treviso), Wroclaw and Zaragoza will increase Ryanair's traffic at Malaga to over 2m passengers p.a. which will sustain 2,000 well paid local jobs in the Malaga region.

[pee]

Malaga - Tampere

pee will be in his element

In my opinion FR is a very bad "matchmaker" and usually does not make any thorough research before planning new routes. Hence I suppose they didn't investigate this new route either. But... you know what? This time, possibly by chance, they've made an extraordinary decision. After Spaniards, the second-largest population living around Malaga are Finnish people. Some 10.000 approximately.

If it's a pure coincidence, "every dog has his day", they say...

[anna_list]

New route blurb

Here's the official blurb for the new base in Faro (14 new routes, 3 aircraft)

Ryanair Announces 39th Base at Faro - London Stock Exchange

And SNN-ALC and SNN-FAO "switched" to NOC and KIR (although ALC-NOC is an existing route):

Ryanair Switches Shannon Routes to Kerry and Knock - London Stock Exchange

[Cyrano]

Is Malaga-Tampere going to be the longest Ryanair route, then? Great Circle Mapper says it's 1824 nm as the crow flies - Stansted to Gander would only be 2061 nm great circle! :-)

[Limburg]

The new Maastricht schedules have been published at the Airport's website. FAO 3x weekly and AGP 2x weekly.

Code:

Origin Dest. Flight    Days      Depart. Arrival
FAO    MST   FR 7468   .2...6.   07:00   10:55
FAO    MST   FR 7468   ...4...   17:15   21:10
MST    FAO   FR 7469   .2...6.   11:20   13:30
MST    FAO   FR 7469   ...4...   21:35   23:45
AGP    MST   FR 2547   ..3...7   06:25   09:35
MST    AGP   FR 2548   ..3...7   10:00   13:10

Making a total of 6 Ryanair routes at Maastricht, quite a surprise with the airport being surrounded by the large bases Weeze & Charleroi and the frequent destination Eindhoven. All of them within 1.5 hours driving from Maastricht!

[Seat62K]

Cyrano,

What interesting data!

What chance 737-800s flying Stansted-Gander- (fill in blank space)?

(Please, no responses along the lines "MOL has stated that Ryanair will not introduce trans-Atlantic services" etc., etc.; I know all about it!)

[Tom the Tenor]

Dont know about Gander but I am sure that there are a lot of Newfoundlanders that would be more than happy about a three or four weekly flight from Stansted to St Johns? I bet the Newfoundland government would be more than happy to provide some incentive funds to re-establish a St Johns - London flight in the wake of the departure of the short lived Air Canada A319 service from a few years ago and preceding that the 767 service. There must be a reasonable market there as even I know a person whom was a regular on that flight down the years.

Would be worth a punt over the course of a summer season to see if it would work so how about it? If we ask Leo nicely he might be good enough to say to it Michael?

[fivejuliet]

Going to newfoundland might be a slight problem as the 738's are only fitted with HF radios for delivery, and they would be required to operate flights across the pond. Also crew duty hours etc would become an issue.

[fivejuliet]

They'd have to reinstall them back into a practical number of aircraft, some crew may require HF training ......and other associated costs, it probably wont happen.

[Charlie Roy]

Faro - Paris (Beauvais)
Faro - Madrid
Faro - Marselle
Faro - Milan (Bergamo)
Faro - Eindhoven
Faro - Birmingham
Faro - Maastricht
Faro - Billund
Faro - Stockholm (Skavsta)
Faro - Oslo (Rygge)
Faro - Memmingen (Munich West)
Malaga - Krakow
Malaga - Paris(Beauvais)
Malaga - Berlin
Malaga - Bratislava
Malaga - Maastricht
Malaga - Eindhoven
Malaga - Gothenburg City
Málaga - Santiago
Malaga - Santander
Malaga - Aarhus
Malaga - Zaragoza
Malaga - Tampere

edit: add

Faro - Knock
Faro - Kerry
Faro - Derry
Malaga - Valladolid
Malaga - Memmingen (Munich West)

Other new routes announced today:
Malaga - Pisa
Malaga - Oslo Torp
Malaga - Stockholm Skavsta
Malaga - Venice Treviso
Malaga - Wroclaw
Alicante - Kerry
Pisa - Krakow
Stockholm Skavsta - Beziers
Oslo Rygge - Zadar
Wroclaw - Bologna

After Spaniards, the second-largest population living around Malaga are Finnish people.

Wow, if I'm not mistaken the only other scheduled service from Finland to Malaga is with Finnair from Helsinki?

FARO
Of the 14 new routes, 7 are to existing bases. These 14 new routes are being made possible by 6 aircraft! So far I have heard some frequencies of the new routes, and they are not very high, but granted the average sector length is long. But 6 aircraft! I imagine some of Faro's existing routes will now instead be operated by Faro based aircraft, thereby freeing up a bit of capacity at the other bases concerned.

MALAGA
Of the new routes only 2 are to existing bases. The 4 aircraft will operate rather long sectors, although the domestic flights will help to keep the average sector length under control. It's only a matter of time before we see a Madrid route, even if there are already 3 other airlines on it.

• Where are the next big announcements, be it bases or significant expansion?
• Fuerteventura as rumoured. More Spain in general? Barcelona BCN?
• More Italy?
• Memmingen and Eindhoven getting a lot of routes.
• Rumours of a Krakow expansion are coming to fruition: Charleroi, Malaga, Pisa announced recently.
• I think Bordeaux has a lot of potential.
• A couple of Greek routes have been rumoured for the new Volos airport.