Ryanair - 7
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ALC - Spain
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RYR in Palma & Oslo
Tomorrow (24th November 2009) conference in Palma de Mallorca:
and other conference in Oslo with Michael O'Leary for today (24th November 2009):
At 13:30 (local hour) - El ejecutivo de Marketing y Ventas de Ryanair para España y Portugal, Luis Fernández, explicará las novedades en las operaciones de esta compañía desde y hacia Palma. Hotel AC Ciudad de Palma (Plaza Puente, 3).
Europa Press news agenda
Europa Press news agenda
Tuesday comes Ryanair boss Michael O `Leary to Oslo. Here the outspoken Irishman presenting "news about Ryanair's commitment in Norway". Most of the tips is based on several new routes from Moss Airport Rygge. The hottest candidates to be Dublin, Dusseldorf and Paris, said Moss Avis.
It also speculated about the O `Leary will introduce Rygge as its first base in Norway.
Boarding.no
It also speculated about the O `Leary will introduce Rygge as its first base in Norway.
Boarding.no
Last edited by GnRdL; 24th Nov 2009 at 07:26.
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Porto
Age: 36
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
According to a portuguese newspaper, Today it will be announced a new base.
Furthermore, a source from the portuguese government claims that the negotiations for a base in Faro are almost concluded and the MOL's no 2, was last week in Lisbon, to check Aeroporto da Portela conditions.
Furthermore, a source from the portuguese government claims that the negotiations for a base in Faro are almost concluded and the MOL's no 2, was last week in Lisbon, to check Aeroporto da Portela conditions.
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
MM
" This cunning move " is not so cunning when looking at the big picture. MOL has had to be cunning to box his way out of a self created over expansion in a contracting market. No more gains for shareholders through expansion, to salvage their investment he has promised a dividend.
Cunning yes, but who created the problem?
Ryanair will evolve, and survive these recent bad decisions, MOL may not. Just wait until the shareholders start making noise.
Rgds,
no slot
" This cunning move " is not so cunning when looking at the big picture. MOL has had to be cunning to box his way out of a self created over expansion in a contracting market. No more gains for shareholders through expansion, to salvage their investment he has promised a dividend.
Cunning yes, but who created the problem?
Ryanair will evolve, and survive these recent bad decisions, MOL may not. Just wait until the shareholders start making noise.
Rgds,
no slot
Join Date: May 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"conference in Palma de Mallorca"
"conference in Oslo"
But before that, MOL showed himself at the press conference in Stockholm today. And guess what?
Btw. Which two regions have more in common; Oslo and Tampere in Central Finland or Oslo and... Wroclaw in SW Poland? I'd guess the Scandinavian link would have been much more successful, but there @FR... who cares? 
"conference in Oslo"
But before that, MOL showed himself at the press conference in Stockholm today. And guess what?
The Swedish National Board for Consumer Complaints are “idiots”. At least if one is to believe Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary. He claimed that the Board misleads travellers and that they are refusing to follow the EU legislation.
At Ryanair they are unhappy with the Swedish interpretation of passengers’ rights at delays or cancelled flights. The majority of complaints that are resting with the Swedish Consumer Agency come from passengers displeased with Ryanair.
This summer a Swedish court ruled that the company must reimburse a couple whose flight was cancelled, causing them to have to find - and pay for - an alternative way home. This ruling has been appealed to the Supreme Court.
“It’s only in Sweden and Norway that we have these problems,” O'Leary concluded.
At Ryanair they are unhappy with the Swedish interpretation of passengers’ rights at delays or cancelled flights. The majority of complaints that are resting with the Swedish Consumer Agency come from passengers displeased with Ryanair.
This summer a Swedish court ruled that the company must reimburse a couple whose flight was cancelled, causing them to have to find - and pay for - an alternative way home. This ruling has been appealed to the Supreme Court.
“It’s only in Sweden and Norway that we have these problems,” O'Leary concluded.
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Holland
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Worth mentioning that this is the first Ryanair base outside the European Union.
And another route from Eindhoven, Ryanair is growing pretty fast there again after the abolition of the travel tax.
And another route from Eindhoven, Ryanair is growing pretty fast there again after the abolition of the travel tax.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Europa
Posts: 1,443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oslo Rygge routes
Well it can't be Dublin, Ryanair have already said there won't be any new routes through Dublin
I also wonder whether new Rygge routes which overlap with Torp routes will see the Torp equivalents reduced / diminished...
New routes
Aarhus
Berlin (Schonefeld)
Dublin [Existing Torp route]
Dusseldorf (Weeze) [Existing Torp route]
Eindhoven
Gdansk
Krakow [Existing Torp route]
La Rochelle
Malaga
Memmingen (Munich West)
Palma
Paris (Beauvais) [Existing Torp route]
Riga
Wroclaw
Valencia
Venice (Treviso)
However they currently operate several routes (Bremen, Stansted, Milan, Girona, Alicante) from both Torp and Rygge, so maybe this isn't a "Rygge is wonderful and we'll have a base there, but not at Torp because they're idiots" kind of move.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Europa
Posts: 1,443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oslo and Tampere in Central Finland or Oslo and... Wroclaw in SW Poland?
In that respect it is no surprise that the airline Norwegian also decided to focus heavily on Poland in recent years. Ryanair's base announcement today will certainly be disappointing for Norwegian.
But I agree with you, I'm sure Rygge to Tampere could be a successful route for Ryanair.
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Don't get me wrong. I have NOTHING against Wroclaw, been there, everything OK! But this is a classic example of... well, an idiotic decision. Calling everybody idiots? Look in the mirror! There exists a similar route by Wizzair. Three times a week from TRP to WRO. Take a look at the flight prices in January:
Some research would show the price of cheapest tickets between Finland (anywhere) to Norway (anywhere). In January, unable to find any return flight below 200 euros.
Where's the logic?
Tue 05 Jan..... 89 NOK
Thu 07 Jan .... 89 NOK
Sat 09 Jan .... 89 NOK
These are total prices, all taxes and fees included. 9 euros (8.50£) per flight. Now what's the point in that? With so meagre popular interest so far, after FR starts the route the price will drop to 0,01 euros or so. If Wizz resign, Ryanair will likely follow and after a period of daily flights there will be no more flights at all. A totally pointless fight there.Thu 07 Jan .... 89 NOK
Sat 09 Jan .... 89 NOK
Some research would show the price of cheapest tickets between Finland (anywhere) to Norway (anywhere). In January, unable to find any return flight below 200 euros.
Where's the logic?
Some research would show the price of cheapest tickets between Finland (anywhere) to Norway (anywhere). In January, unable to find any return flight below 200 euros.
Where's the logic?
Where's the logic?
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I also wonder whether new Rygge routes which overlap with Torp routes will see the Torp equivalents reduced / diminished...
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Given Norway is a non-EU country, I expect Ryanair cannot have Rygge employees on Irish contracts? Interesting...
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Belfast, Ireland
Posts: 481
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Was wondering with MOL about to fall out with Boeing on a new 737 deal and Airbus won't play ball, should he take a drive up the M1 to Bombardier and take a look at the new C series?
Admittedly, the CS300 with 149 seats is smaller than the 737-800 but a massive launch customer like Ryanair for 200 jets would ensure a large discount and make Bombardier a real player in this segment of the market. It would also enable Ryanair to compete on thinner routes.
Any thoughts?
Admittedly, the CS300 with 149 seats is smaller than the 737-800 but a massive launch customer like Ryanair for 200 jets would ensure a large discount and make Bombardier a real player in this segment of the market. It would also enable Ryanair to compete on thinner routes.
Any thoughts?
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Durham
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
With over 200 B737-800s in the Ryanair fleet O'Leary is really stuck with that aircraft unless he wants higher operating costs. So Boeing has no need to offer him a loss-making price and other manufacturers won't waste their time knowing O'Leary is likely just to be using them to get a lower price from Boeing. Having lead Airbus up the garden path last time and then tastefully boasting about 'raping' Boeing, O'Leary isn't going to get a bargain this time.
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Belfast, Ireland
Posts: 481
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Good point but Bombardier are desperate to get into this market and Ryanair could use this move as a transition to a new generation of fuel efficient aircraft.
All airlines must change their model of aircraft at some point and there is no replacement of the 737 by Boeing on the cards.
All airlines must change their model of aircraft at some point and there is no replacement of the 737 by Boeing on the cards.
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Dre's mum's house
Posts: 1,432
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Of course if MOL calls Boeing's bluff dumping 300+ nearly new 738s back into the hands of the lessors and the secondhand market would certainly kill the 73 production line at Seattle for a while!