DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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Flying School
I'd love to elaborate further but let's just say the airport are in the right regarding the flying school and SWBKCB hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the owners past.
The airport are trying to re-build confidence within the GA community and given the owners name is notorious country-wide, they could well do without a person like that on-site.
The airport are trying to re-build confidence within the GA community and given the owners name is notorious country-wide, they could well do without a person like that on-site.
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I did a lot of flying out of teesside and as I far as I was aware, the only flying school left was Durham Tees Flight Training after it bought out Eric Reed and acquired St George Flight Training.
I hope DTFT is not the school that you are discussing as the CFI there is someone that I have ultimate respect for.
Was it a new start up and if so, who was behind it???
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I hope DTFT is not the school that you are discussing as the CFI there is someone that I have ultimate respect for.
Was it a new start up and if so, who was behind it???
cheers
FPS
FPS, DTFT I think they call it is still open and going strong.
The other one with the problems has connections with a school at Sheffield that also had problems. We all thought the burger man on here used to cook in the cafe. Sure someone will come along and spill the full story soon.
The other one with the problems has connections with a school at Sheffield that also had problems. We all thought the burger man on here used to cook in the cafe. Sure someone will come along and spill the full story soon.
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No it's not Durham Tees Flight Training, those guys are the very best.
Again, I don't want to say too much (well, I do, but you know how it is!), but if you were to Google the owners previous company, Cloud 9 Aviation at Blackpool, you'll find out all you need to know, in fact, I think there's an extensive thread on that shambolic operation somewhere on this forum.
Again, I don't want to say too much (well, I do, but you know how it is!), but if you were to Google the owners previous company, Cloud 9 Aviation at Blackpool, you'll find out all you need to know, in fact, I think there's an extensive thread on that shambolic operation somewhere on this forum.
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Thank god DTFT are still going!!
Cant recommend Dale and the team enough
I appreciate the need to be careful with what is divulged but as soon as you mentioned blackpool, all became clear!!!
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Cant recommend Dale and the team enough
I appreciate the need to be careful with what is divulged but as soon as you mentioned blackpool, all became clear!!!
cheers
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Until now I thought he was simply a con-man, but reading those threads makes you realise just how much of a criminal he is, I've heard he was visited by two lot's of bailiffs, one lot the airport sent and another lot the firm that maintained his aircraft sent.
He has/had a lot of supporters, people who banged on about how he was trying to be the saviour of the airport (yeah right!) and everyone should start listening to him blah blah blah, I hope they read these threads and weep.
He has/had a lot of supporters, people who banged on about how he was trying to be the saviour of the airport (yeah right!) and everyone should start listening to him blah blah blah, I hope they read these threads and weep.
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Is anyone surprised its happened again. Guess they'll be no more Beafer Burgers or 'man in the village' now that the place has a bailiffs notice nailed to the door.
Wonder how many poor sods have lost money this time, and where will he pop up next?
Wonder how many poor sods have lost money this time, and where will he pop up next?
Don't forget he married Miss Pigg who is the registered owner of the Pa 34 which is currently parked on stand 9 minus one engine.
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How did Peel manage to obtain DTV and 250 acres for £500k?
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How did Peel manage to obtain DTV and 250 acres for £500k?
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Exactly - the questions have never been answered, probably because no sod knows; in the very unlikely event the newspapers can find a conclusive answer then bring the subject back up as it will be relevant, but until then, stop clogging the thread up with what is essentially spam.
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Few points....
Firstly bearers question....when will the consultation results be known
Secondly. FODTV. meeting last month...any news for general consumption?
Third..when does the flight calib. Unit leave.
And finally. Does anyone have any positive airport news?
Ta
Firstly bearers question....when will the consultation results be known
Secondly. FODTV. meeting last month...any news for general consumption?
Third..when does the flight calib. Unit leave.
And finally. Does anyone have any positive airport news?
Ta
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Beafer, let's get something straight, I ain't no "Peel chappy" as you put it nor are Peel my bosses and I do criticise them when it's warranted - to their faces I might add and not from the safety of behind a keyboard and monitor.
To answer some more sensible questions put forward by highwideandugly. Cobham Flight Inspection are reportedly leaving this month, certainly next at the latest. Things discussed at FoDTVA meetings are often commercially sensitive and cannot be discussed on forums etc, it is also for this reason why I can't properly answer your last question, there are some positive things, but probably not the kind of positive things you're looking/hoping for.
The consultation results will be known around Spring time when Peel release a final draft of the plan which will have taken into account all the feedback they received from the various events.
To answer some more sensible questions put forward by highwideandugly. Cobham Flight Inspection are reportedly leaving this month, certainly next at the latest. Things discussed at FoDTVA meetings are often commercially sensitive and cannot be discussed on forums etc, it is also for this reason why I can't properly answer your last question, there are some positive things, but probably not the kind of positive things you're looking/hoping for.
The consultation results will be known around Spring time when Peel release a final draft of the plan which will have taken into account all the feedback they received from the various events.
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Car Parking
I see the short-stay car park has been closed to make way for one of the new hangars:
Airport cuts parking charges (From The Northern Echo)
Airport cuts parking charges (From The Northern Echo)
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Beafer, I haven't bothered reading the letters in the local rag but it's quite clear from what you've written here, you really don't have a fecking clue about business.
The councils sold the airport at a knock down price because it needed a shed load of cash to keep it open. The councils accepted the offer from Peel. If there were other offered on the table, I'm sure they will have been looked at.
If the councils had not sold the airport to someone willing to put money in to keep it open, it would have closed a long time ago. Quite simply, the councils could not afford the cash input needed to keep the place running.
Peel have suffered the losses over the past 10 years. The councils could not sustain the losses.
Peel have delivered in their promise in that including the losses have given over £20m. Works have been completed on items airside that have been needed just to keep the airport compliant with CAA regulations.
Peel now need to look to the future and decide what can be done to ensure the airport survives. This is what the Master Plan is all about.
You talk about the councils carrying out compulsory purchases. If they did, which council(s) could afford to run the airport. As I see it, with all the cuts to council budgets, none of them could afford to prop up the airport and keep it open.
The councils sold it exactly for that reason. They did not invest when they had it and as a result sold the place in a dilapidated state.
There will be ongoing expenditure of high value just to keep the infrastructure compliant. Peel need to look at ways to raise the capital needed. Selling/using the land around it for other commercial needs which can provide an income to subsidise the airport is the way forward.
All other airport are either doing the same or are now looking at using surplus land to subsidise their airport operation.
Check out the financial stats of the other airports in the region. They all made a loss. One made a loss greater than DTVA!
So feel free to bang on about ****e you don't have a clue about, continue to show your complete lack of business sense and your ability to believe in everything you read and hear from other who have about as much business acumen as a dishcloth.
The councils sold the airport at a knock down price because it needed a shed load of cash to keep it open. The councils accepted the offer from Peel. If there were other offered on the table, I'm sure they will have been looked at.
If the councils had not sold the airport to someone willing to put money in to keep it open, it would have closed a long time ago. Quite simply, the councils could not afford the cash input needed to keep the place running.
Peel have suffered the losses over the past 10 years. The councils could not sustain the losses.
Peel have delivered in their promise in that including the losses have given over £20m. Works have been completed on items airside that have been needed just to keep the airport compliant with CAA regulations.
Peel now need to look to the future and decide what can be done to ensure the airport survives. This is what the Master Plan is all about.
You talk about the councils carrying out compulsory purchases. If they did, which council(s) could afford to run the airport. As I see it, with all the cuts to council budgets, none of them could afford to prop up the airport and keep it open.
The councils sold it exactly for that reason. They did not invest when they had it and as a result sold the place in a dilapidated state.
There will be ongoing expenditure of high value just to keep the infrastructure compliant. Peel need to look at ways to raise the capital needed. Selling/using the land around it for other commercial needs which can provide an income to subsidise the airport is the way forward.
All other airport are either doing the same or are now looking at using surplus land to subsidise their airport operation.
Check out the financial stats of the other airports in the region. They all made a loss. One made a loss greater than DTVA!
So feel free to bang on about ****e you don't have a clue about, continue to show your complete lack of business sense and your ability to believe in everything you read and hear from other who have about as much business acumen as a dishcloth.
