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Old 9th Nov 2013, 13:39
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Skyman - I'm pretty sure, in the eyes of business, Northern would be able to conjure up some plan to stop their trains at this station - if it was deemed profitable based on a new shopping centre which could in fact be linked to the platforms as at the Metro... Obviously, based on the current situation there will be no increase.
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Old 11th Nov 2013, 13:45
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Just to deviate from the usual subjects on here for a moment...

There's a talk on 23rd November in DTVA's terminal by the Lightning Association about the English Electric Lightning. Get yourselves there - should be good.

Tickets from:
Lightning Presentation 2013 - FoDTVA
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Old 11th Nov 2013, 16:51
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Another one gone...

just heard through the "grapevine" that St.Georges Flying group have ceased operation.I know not alot of business but a loss non the less?? Feel sorry for the guys but I'm sure they will pick up employment at some local go ahead airport!!!!
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Old 11th Nov 2013, 17:05
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highwideandugly, St George Flight Training are no more but not in the way you're thinking, they were bought by the other flying school Durham Tees Flight Training who merged the operation into their own, all staff/aircraft were kept on.
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Old 11th Nov 2013, 18:58
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St George flying school

Great news!
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 00:01
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I also believe that DTFT are owned/have a close relationship with Northumbria up at NCL. St Georges at NCL has been integrated into Northumbria up there and NFS/DTFT often play swapsies with their planes.
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 12:09
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I stand to be corrected on this, but I believe the guy that wholly owns DTFT is also the majority, if not the sole owner of Northumbria Flying School and Northumbria Helicopters.
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 15:36
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Peel make a £3.6m loss at DTV in last year.

Gazette news.

Peel made a £3.6m pre tax loss in the last year compared to a profit last year. Peel blame the following reasons.
Durham Tees Valley Airport: Slump in passenger numbers leaves airport £3.6m in the red - Gazette Live

Probably just offsetting their other mega profits in the Whitty kingdom
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 15:59
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Interesting comment:

Airport bosses said the previous year’s profit had been boosted by compensation from a former customer for breach of contract.
Presumably the bmiBaby money?
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 16:07
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First dumping passengers on cost grounds.....then posting a loss......more excuses.....just need to p off KLM & Eastern!!
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 16:09
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Yet another local Labour MP who thinks the government should hand over £4 million to Peel at MME. I doubt many taxpayers will agree. Peel could use the BMI money to invest if it chose to.
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 16:13
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Some may have seen Flybe's announcement yesterday after a strategic review. Given that 500 redundancies are being considered (legal nicety - they will almost certainly happen) anyone want to predict whether Flybe will actually fly DTV to Jersey over summer 2014 or not ?
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 16:19
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Why not? What else will they be doing with their a/c on a summer Saturday afternoon?
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 17:03
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Thumbs down KLM and DTV

Makes you wonder how long KLM would want their name tarnished with an association with an airport which..lets face it...just doesnt care.

I dread the first ice and snow and closures.Do we all,in all honesty beleive that the authorities will spalsh the cash to provide de icing and man power...guys if I were you...over December,January and February...if you want reliability and tight connections choose Newcastle or leeds!! Im sorry if its harsh but its true!!!
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Old 12th Nov 2013, 19:11
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Just that

And I've done just that. 3 trips planned in January and February, a couple of which are the red eye starts. I've gone for Newcastle on all three - rightly or wrongly I think it gives me a lesser chance of disruption.
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 21:25
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Your comparing apples and oranges as the article states '...Airport bosses said the previous year’s profit had been boosted by compensation from a former customer for breach of contract...' - presumably the bmiBaby money.

So the 'profit' was boosted be a one off payment and had nothing to do with passenger throughput. And weren't they claiming £9-10m in damages?
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 05:43
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No, it's not a wind-up...

LOSS-making Durham Tees Valley Airport (DTVA) will today (Thursday) unveil plans to protect vital air links by building up to 400 houses on the site.

Airport bosses say the sale of land for housing would fund the redevelopment of the terminal building, and pay for new aircraft hangars, warehouses and offices.
The DTVA master plan, which goes out for a two-month consultation today
The plan proposes between 250 and 400 homes on land to the west and north of the terminal, including a field previously earmarked for a business park.
To view the master plan, visit dtva-master-plan.co.uk
Seems to be password protected at the moment, nothing on the DTVA website

Consultations events will be held at the St George Hotel at DTVA on November 21 and at the Dolphin Centre, in Darlington, on November 28. More events are planned, the airport said.
Durham Tees Valley Airport reveals housing estate plan to secure future (From The Northern Echo)


Housing at heart of Durham Trees Valley Airport blueprint for future (From The Northern Echo)

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Old 14th Nov 2013, 06:41
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Just looked at the map of the proposed development linked in the second Northern Echo story - changed my mind, it is a wind up...

The new link road from the roundabout to the terminal now goes through the housing estate, the house estate seems to go up to the apron fences, and the only access to the southside development is along the old access road, alongside the new housing development, through the current hangar area and then looping round the eastern end of the runway...
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 07:25
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Houses

Local Council Doris Jones will be fumeing about houses, she hates new houses more than the airport.

It will be interesting to see what happens as Peel will have to spend millions on new drains and water treatment for a start.
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 08:37
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..Airport bosses said the previous year’s profit had been boosted by compensation from a former customer for breach of contract...' - presumably the bmiBaby money.

So the DTV 'profit' was boosted by a one off payment from BMI Baby and had nothing to do with passenger throughput. And weren't they claiming £9-10m in damages?
Yes all noted, perhaps the point is that these "damages" received by Peel, which must by simple maths been around £8 Million plus were simply "trousered" by Peel and diverted into their own cash reserves as if some windfall !
What they have not done, which is as it was on day one when they acquired the airport, is to INVEST, and indeed when they did receive the cash settlement they chose to apply it to other projects within their group.
Obviously as a course of their subsequent and ongoing actions then Peel have had to finance considerable losses which are to a great extent the result of their own actions, though clearly they will still come up on top to the tune of £ Millions & this is BEFORE they seek to reap the benefits of whatever "Grand Plan" be it housing or whaetver that they now propose to attempt force through quoting the usual cliche's of employment, area improvement etc.
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