DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5

[highwideandugly]

No radar

Gardener..would have thought a radar for a major airport was important? why not??

[GARDENER]

No radar

Lots of places operate with no radar and handle more traffic, I expect they still have SSR. It's obviously a bonus to have everything working!

[highwideandugly]

dtv no radar

ok i see..do we have our own ssr? or are we dependent on others for that?

what happens if that ssr fails and the radar stll not working?

i suppose its more a fact thats its been off for sometime,,is this just another lack of investment to go with everything else? maybe all aircraft should pay a £6 fee to use the equipment just like the passengers have, to use the facilities!! (joke!!)

[GARDENER]

As far as I remember the SSR is at MME. If all failed then keep a good lookout for traffic as one should anyway and go for the visual approach backed up with instruments if necessary or if the weather is crap then perhaps procedural approach having received a service from elsewhere NCL/ military before switching to tower?

[SWBKCB]

DTVA chairman Robert Hough said the company would be demanding an explanation from ministers after the RGF bid was turned down.

In a statement issued after the bid was discussed at the airport’s monthly management meeting yesterday, Mr Hough said: “The airport has now been notified officially that the Regional Growth Fund bid for £5.9m in support of the Southside development was unsuccessful. “The directors expressed acute disappointment and will be seeking an explanation for the decision.”

However, Mr Hough said the board had reaffirmed its commitment to pursuing the Southside scheme which he said was “vital to providing sustainable aviation at the airport”

Bosses at Durham Tees Valley Airport express "acute disappointment" at bid failure (From The Northern Echo)

[Northbound A1]

SSR

I might be wrong but I think the MME SSR is a piggy backed version from Great Dunn Fell radar up on t hills to the west.

It was a way to save money when they opted for SSR I believe.

Didnt Peel Holdings pull the ILS prior to Sheffield coming a cropper?
Whats up with the primary radar?

[Hipennine]

Ironic given that the N.Echo is saying that MME's objection to a proposed windfarm interfering with their radar, was the main reason for planning refusal for the windfarm.

[highwideandugly]

Green Shoots ?

Notice the passenger figures for September(compared to last Sept) were only 4.7% down..is the decline finally halting? Rolling total for year though still at minus 17%(credit DTV movements)

I think we all await with great interest the next master plan from Peel after they have digested last weeks news re funding...Ideas anyone?

[SWBKCB]

Not so much Green shoots - with passenger throughput so low, the loss (or gain) of individual flights has a significant effect on the month on month figures, so you're not really looking at trends but the impact of individual decisions/events.

What will be interesting is Peel's reaction to the RGF decision - was the project only viable with the Govt funds (and I have absolutely no problem with any business seeking to use any funds available to them) or will they now push on by themselves?

[davidjohnson6]

Highwide - see post 2250 for a discussion of the Sept statistics. The reason for the apparent cessation in decline is that the Turkish holiday flights ended over 12 months ago so have dropped out of the stats when comparing Sep 2012 v Sep 2011 but haven't yet dropped out of the stats for comparing Oct11-Sep12 against Oct10-Sep11. After a year with no Turkish routes at MME, one assume the holiday trade has adjusted long term to an expectation that the Turkish holiday trade will in future likely be based solely at Newcastle.

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post7468207

[tubtruck]

Little bit disturbing that DTV no longer advertise routes on anna aero, how do they expect to get flights if they dont even put what is needed on the main route website.

[SWBKCB]

suspect there's a little bit more to it than putting your 'wants' list on a website...

[tubtruck]

Peel are sill willing to put their other airports on there though and DVTA used to be on the site

[SWBKCB]

DTVA aren't owned by the same company as DSA and LPL

[fa2fi]

Oh. What's the company who owns them called?

[SWBKCB]

From DTVA website:

In April 2003, Peel Airports reached an agreement with the six local authority shareholders (Durham, Darlington, Stockton-on-Tees, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool and Redcar and Cleveland Borough Councils), to acquire a 75 percent shareholding in the Airport with the local authorities retaining a 25 percent interest in the company. In June 2010, Vantage Airport Group (formerly Vancouver Airport Services) acquired a 65 percent share in Peel Airports, which included DTVA. The six local authorities continue to be shareholders in Durham Tees Valley Airport.

On 10th February 2012, Peel Airports Limited concluded the sale of its majority shareholding in Durham Tees Valley Airport to Peel Investments (DTVA) Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Peel Group.

Durham Tees Valley Airport Background Information

[10 DME ARC]

SWBKCB - Whilst you are totally correct the last bit of your post says it all!!

a wholly owned subsidiary of the Peel Group.

[Laasjet]

Take a look at Sheffield that also felt the hand of Peel. There is a "last ditch" attempt by the local Council at the moment to stop the runway from being torn up. Little chance with an extension to the business park about to take place.

Peel is a substantial property company as depicted on their website and airports are but an interesting part of their operation.

[SWBKCB]

What where the passenger numbers like at LPL when Peel bought it?

[TSR2]

Peel bought a 76% majority shareholding in LJL in 1997 and the remaining 24% in May 2001.

LJL Total Pax 1997 .... 689,468

LJL Total Pax 2001 .... 2,253,398

LJL Total Pax 2011 .... 5,251,161