DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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Durham Tees Valley Airport, secure its future - e-petitions ???? Not the most dynamic idea but it may be a start.
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That e-petition is certainly economical withe truth. No one could realistically describe the airport in its present state as a vital hub. As for greater flexibility most days passengers have a choice of destinations ranging from A to Z, apart from B to Z.
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Teeside is only 50 miles from Newcastle Airport (approx. 1 hour by road) Wouldn't time and money better be spent improving links to Newcastle, along with a strong campaign to attract more services to the North East Region as a whole. In comparison it takes about the same commuting time from Central London to Heathrow! I'm sure the whole N.E. Region would benefit from Airport Express Rail & Coach links, and improvements to A1/A696/ Airport road junctions, with more Air routes serving a wider catchment area from Newcastle.
Thoughts!
Thoughts!
Teeside is only 50 miles from Newcastle Airport (approx. 1 hour by road) Wouldn't time and money better be spent improving links to Newcastle, along with a strong campaign to attract more services to the North East Region as a whole. In comparison it takes about the same commuting time from Central London to Heathrow! I'm sure the whole N.E. Region would benefit from Airport Express Rail & Coach links, and improvements to A1/A696/ Airport road junctions, with more Air routes serving a wider catchment area from Newcastle.
Thoughts!
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The first few? What about the rest? Did the trend continue?
Is this not just clutching at utter straws? Ah yes, Thomas Cook, we've no local market but we've got some Scots who'll drive down. They'll ignore Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds and Glasgow and come straight to Teesside because its so great.
More like. Flights from Scottish airports and NCL were fully booked or now at premium prices and our cunning north of the border friends decided to book up and fly out to save a pretty penny.
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Is this not just clutching at utter straws? Ah yes, Thomas Cook, we've no local market but we've got some Scots who'll drive down. They'll ignore Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds and Glasgow and come straight to Teesside because its so great.
More like. Flights from Scottish airports and NCL were fully booked or now at premium prices and our cunning north of the border friends decided to book up and fly out to save a pretty penny.
DTV - Edinburgh South
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Reason is likely due to Scottish School holiday dates are out of kilter, with English Schools, therefore prices would be higher from Scottish airports from early July (Start of their Summer Holidays) - Flights are also more likely to be full due to demand.
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this thread appears to be moving more and more towards fantasy with every post. It would appear that desperation to keep a failing airport open has clouded most posters minds.
Lets all have a reality check here
epetition - complete fantasy in itself its not 100,000 signatures the airport needs but passengers wanting to use the airport and the evidence is they don't. Even the wording of the actual petition is complete fantasy.
Government intervention - lets get a grip folks no Tory government is going to take over a failing regional airport let alone this government. This current Government is probably the most anti aviation government that this country has ever seen. The best way to support regional airports is to scrap APD.
Regional hub - are we having a complete laugh here, I had to read the comment twice just to make sure I was not day dreaming.
Durham Tees Valley can not be a viable airport alongside Newcastle or Leeds simply due to the fact that the local population simply don't want to use the airport. This fact apart the region is not big enough to support three airports either is Geography or population. Due to its location sandwiched between its two larger competitors DTVs was always going to be the looser.
Lets all have a reality check here
epetition - complete fantasy in itself its not 100,000 signatures the airport needs but passengers wanting to use the airport and the evidence is they don't. Even the wording of the actual petition is complete fantasy.
Government intervention - lets get a grip folks no Tory government is going to take over a failing regional airport let alone this government. This current Government is probably the most anti aviation government that this country has ever seen. The best way to support regional airports is to scrap APD.
Regional hub - are we having a complete laugh here, I had to read the comment twice just to make sure I was not day dreaming.
Durham Tees Valley can not be a viable airport alongside Newcastle or Leeds simply due to the fact that the local population simply don't want to use the airport. This fact apart the region is not big enough to support three airports either is Geography or population. Due to its location sandwiched between its two larger competitors DTVs was always going to be the looser.
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ncleflights, firstly, if your username is anything to go by, you're completely biased anyway.
Secondly, you're largely correct until your last paragraph - the local population do want to travel from MME, in fact I'd go as far as to say most are screaming out to travel from MME. History has proved several times that when the flights are provided, they are usually full or not far from it.
Finally, if the region isn't big enough to support three airports, how has it managed for the last 46 years?
Secondly, you're largely correct until your last paragraph - the local population do want to travel from MME, in fact I'd go as far as to say most are screaming out to travel from MME. History has proved several times that when the flights are provided, they are usually full or not far from it.
Finally, if the region isn't big enough to support three airports, how has it managed for the last 46 years?
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EXC / AIH 96
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MME Would be the choice if back in 96 you could fly to REU for £394 for a week ALL INC however times are past and EXC as AIH are long gone from MME! NCL has some cracking deals WHY would we fly from MME when only TOM offer deals of over £800 to TFS????
MME Would be the choice if back in 96 you could fly to REU for £394 for a week ALL INC however times are past and EXC as AIH are long gone from MME! NCL has some cracking deals WHY would we fly from MME when only TOM offer deals of over £800 to TFS????
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Well said ncleflights.
Alot of people in dream land catching up on this thread.
You've all discussed that the airport requires large amounts of investment to bring the current infrastructure up to standard. The airport is for sale as it obviously doesn't make any money.
With Newcastle to the north and Leeds to the south an hour in either direction it clearly is no longer a viable business in the current economic climate. Airlines are not willing to take risks anymore. With Passenger numbers at an all time low the futures looking bleak.
Being from Newcastle I'm clearly biased but you dont have to be from the north to draw that conclusion on DTV.
Alot of people in dream land catching up on this thread.
You've all discussed that the airport requires large amounts of investment to bring the current infrastructure up to standard. The airport is for sale as it obviously doesn't make any money.
With Newcastle to the north and Leeds to the south an hour in either direction it clearly is no longer a viable business in the current economic climate. Airlines are not willing to take risks anymore. With Passenger numbers at an all time low the futures looking bleak.
Being from Newcastle I'm clearly biased but you dont have to be from the north to draw that conclusion on DTV.
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As for greater flexibility most days passengers have a choice of destinations ranging from A to Z, apart from B to Z.
If the northeast can't attract serious interest from Ryanair, and most of the other locos are already well represented at NCL, what hope is there? Maybe bmibaby will come in and have a try.
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but the future isn't bright - and holding a petition is just daft.
What the government might respond to is if local business leaders club their heads together and say - ok, our airport is doomed, but what's this new fangled rail link they are talking of down south? Oh, so it might get to Leeds in 2032? £150m per mile to get it moving, but the stretch between York and Newcastle has been costed at 'just' £41m per mile?
Let's make sure we get ourselves on that, so we don't get passed by.
Learn from what we've seen here in Coventry - local council determined to see us closed down, eventually Thomsonfly did their job for them, AND we've missed out on HS2 too. Council here voted to oppose that too, when they could instead have asked if we could get a spur or a station. For technical reasons, a station serving the Teesside region is much more feasible than one serving Coventry - and you can also stick one up on Durham, which would probably be too small.
That is a campaign that would be worth fighting on two fronts - 1) come here sooner and 2) give us a stop. Look what the Scots are doing too.
I know this is an aviation forum, but if you want better transport links, the future for MME (region) is on the rails, not in the sky.
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Just wait till the banks start pulling the plug and calling in the loans. Then we'll see how Newcastle survives. Please remind me how much debt Newcastle is in!!
£320m due in 2013!!!!
£320m due in 2013!!!!
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Just wait till the banks start pulling the plug and calling in the loans. Then we'll see how Newcastle survives. Please remind me how much debt Newcastle is in!!
£320m due in 2013!!!
£320m due in 2013!!!
Sad fact is DTV is irrelevant in the big picture
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MME is not by any means doomed, there are one million passengers who were flying from MME in 2006 and one million passengers are still here and one million passengers or more still want to fly from MME if they could.
I've said it before, but it is VERY feasible and isn't too much to ask for a seasonal one-aircraft base from the likes of TCX or TOM and 850k+ pax per year.
Even if there was zero potential for the terminal, there is infinite other possibilities on the GA side of things, Newcastle have little or nothing and despite Leeds having Multiflight they don't really do air taxi / private charter so you've got to go to either Edinburgh or Manchester. Then there's the potential for aircraft storage etc. If MME closes it will be down to conspiracy / incompetence and nothing else.
I've said it before, but it is VERY feasible and isn't too much to ask for a seasonal one-aircraft base from the likes of TCX or TOM and 850k+ pax per year.
Even if there was zero potential for the terminal, there is infinite other possibilities on the GA side of things, Newcastle have little or nothing and despite Leeds having Multiflight they don't really do air taxi / private charter so you've got to go to either Edinburgh or Manchester. Then there's the potential for aircraft storage etc. If MME closes it will be down to conspiracy / incompetence and nothing else.
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When Wizz Air were at MME, they wanted to launch a second route by all accounts - but Peel refused to give them slots/figures/numbers etc for MME and insisted they went to Doncaster instead.