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i think on scheduled flights it would depend on the airline if they incorporate it into their website - it really would be down to them to point this out or the travel agent i guess even if they dont impose it.
Am not sure how (and i think a fee is imposed at Blackpool) the likes of Jet2 or the other airlines show this - same as Newquay.
I know for a long time now, a number of Carribean airports have imposed a departure tax or arrival tax - a lot of them higher than the £6 at DTV..and i think tour operators call this out, not sure if the likes of BA/Virgin do on flight only scheduled services?
My personal view on the tax is it seems odd to me - i would reduce landing fees in order to get more services in and get money on passenger fees that airlines pay - as passengers more use new services then revenues go up, then again am not in airport management and am not privvy to that sort of information so i cant accurately comment.
These are hard times - the airport know the £6 on the volume of passengers isnt going to stem the losses they are hinting at but may plug some sort of hole...the risk is one big risk for current operations and that is Ryanair as they dont like this sort of thing but then again Ryanair dont like check in desks either.
I cant see the AMS or Easten Services being at risk over this but attracting new airlines could be interesting. I assume their priority to attract more airline as hinted s is looking more at Charter than loco/full service and charter pax I guess would spend more at an airport like DTV than business pax would.
I can see how it affects a family of four going off on their hols, however package deals for years have included airport supplements (and our local airport always seemed to have high ones on flights i took ) they could incorporate it into the price that way and at check in hand out the vouchers to pass through security - if incorporated into the ticket price they wont notice it/feel it - its the action of at the airport going to the ticket machine and handing over the money that way they will feel more..... I have just spent £800 return to come from SEA through AMS to MME for christmas - when i go back on the return leg £6 or no £6 i dont really care, it would cost me more to get to NCL or MAN than £6...and as i will over the next couple of years fly back and forth like this it isnt going to put me off using MME....providing I can
Am not sure how (and i think a fee is imposed at Blackpool) the likes of Jet2 or the other airlines show this - same as Newquay.
I know for a long time now, a number of Carribean airports have imposed a departure tax or arrival tax - a lot of them higher than the £6 at DTV..and i think tour operators call this out, not sure if the likes of BA/Virgin do on flight only scheduled services?
My personal view on the tax is it seems odd to me - i would reduce landing fees in order to get more services in and get money on passenger fees that airlines pay - as passengers more use new services then revenues go up, then again am not in airport management and am not privvy to that sort of information so i cant accurately comment.
These are hard times - the airport know the £6 on the volume of passengers isnt going to stem the losses they are hinting at but may plug some sort of hole...the risk is one big risk for current operations and that is Ryanair as they dont like this sort of thing but then again Ryanair dont like check in desks either.
I cant see the AMS or Easten Services being at risk over this but attracting new airlines could be interesting. I assume their priority to attract more airline as hinted s is looking more at Charter than loco/full service and charter pax I guess would spend more at an airport like DTV than business pax would.
I can see how it affects a family of four going off on their hols, however package deals for years have included airport supplements (and our local airport always seemed to have high ones on flights i took ) they could incorporate it into the price that way and at check in hand out the vouchers to pass through security - if incorporated into the ticket price they wont notice it/feel it - its the action of at the airport going to the ticket machine and handing over the money that way they will feel more..... I have just spent £800 return to come from SEA through AMS to MME for christmas - when i go back on the return leg £6 or no £6 i dont really care, it would cost me more to get to NCL or MAN than £6...and as i will over the next couple of years fly back and forth like this it isnt going to put me off using MME....providing I can
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Am not sure how (and i think a fee is imposed at Blackpool) the likes of Jet2 or the other airlines show this
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I agree with UKlad that lowering landing charges for airlines or cutting already cheap car parking could bring more pax into MME but the £6 PDF is guaranteed income whereas the other options are speculative and I guess the airport management are sick of looking at potential income and/or passenger figs and are dealing in the here and now.
As for Ryanair, I wouldn't worry too much as I strongly suspect that they will pull the ALC route anyway next year with or without the charge.
As UKlad said and like the comments in the local press from pax at MME on Friday, it probably won't put off those pax already using the airport who enjoy it being on the door step and see a sense of local pride in using it. Sure they'll be the odd few who spit their dummies out and use NCL and LBA but good luck to them as I for one don't enjoy being stuck by the metrocentre or dawdling along hte A59 for 30mins after having left the A1.
The stupid thing is, when you factor in petrol, journey time and parking, using either of these is going to easily quadruple the £6 PDF. I would guess a lot of MME pax save on parking and either get a taxi or family or friends drop them off.
It is make or break time for MME, although it saddens me to see the way things are going, I think its about time the people of Teesside stand up to be counted and show some loyalty to what is their airport. I;ve said it before but what would it cost for the local press to run a 'save our airport' campaign highlighting destinations and doing price breakdowns comparing the associated costs to travelling from NCL or LBA. For example, a lot of the time, KLM via AMS to CDG or other european destinations works out the same as going easyjet or jet2 once you add on the petrol money and car parking at the 'big two'.
As for Ryanair, I wouldn't worry too much as I strongly suspect that they will pull the ALC route anyway next year with or without the charge.
As UKlad said and like the comments in the local press from pax at MME on Friday, it probably won't put off those pax already using the airport who enjoy it being on the door step and see a sense of local pride in using it. Sure they'll be the odd few who spit their dummies out and use NCL and LBA but good luck to them as I for one don't enjoy being stuck by the metrocentre or dawdling along hte A59 for 30mins after having left the A1.
The stupid thing is, when you factor in petrol, journey time and parking, using either of these is going to easily quadruple the £6 PDF. I would guess a lot of MME pax save on parking and either get a taxi or family or friends drop them off.
It is make or break time for MME, although it saddens me to see the way things are going, I think its about time the people of Teesside stand up to be counted and show some loyalty to what is their airport. I;ve said it before but what would it cost for the local press to run a 'save our airport' campaign highlighting destinations and doing price breakdowns comparing the associated costs to travelling from NCL or LBA. For example, a lot of the time, KLM via AMS to CDG or other european destinations works out the same as going easyjet or jet2 once you add on the petrol money and car parking at the 'big two'.
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Something that I find interesting is, at other airports when this has happened, Ryanair have pulled out immediately without a seconds hesitation, whereas the press mentioned with us they're only 'considering it'.
I for one thought ALC would suspend for Winter like last year but just not return next Summer, but with load factors well over 85%, maybe...just maybe....
I for one thought ALC would suspend for Winter like last year but just not return next Summer, but with load factors well over 85%, maybe...just maybe....
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I can see how it affects a family of four going off on their hols, however package deals for years have included airport supplements
As the the question of it's administration then as I noted previously, nothing has been said that indicates that it will not be as simple as :-
"Place your cash / plastic card in a vending machine & out pops a ticket which you will need to present on checkin, else you won't get a boarding pass!"
As far as I recall then tear off part of voucher removed around time going through security, at which time any e-checkins with electronic boarding pass & without baggage would be verified in any event. The airlines themselves do NOT become involved at all in it's administration.
This is how it has worked at NQY from my experiences and presumably still continues to do so.
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It will affect the Thomson charter flights over the winter. Many passengers will already have bought these flights and will be doubly aggrieved to have to cough up retrospectively.
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The £6 PFF will not affect those flights or holidays already booked as long as proof of purchase is shown. This is as per the FAQs on the airport's dedicated PFF website.
On a side note, Viking Airlines have suspended operations for 3 months or so which may put in doubt the expanded Newmarket programme from MME to Seville, Naples, Verona and Catania (Sicily) next year.
On a side note, Viking Airlines have suspended operations for 3 months or so which may put in doubt the expanded Newmarket programme from MME to Seville, Naples, Verona and Catania (Sicily) next year.
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Thanks for putting me right on the small print. If it is publicised that the £6 charge can be avoided by booking before 1 November then some of the inevitable fall in passenger numbers might be reduced or postponed. However, the way the charge is being introduced is a recipe for chaos. From 15 November there will be three categories of passengers - those that do not have to pay and have the right paperwork, those that do not have to pay, but don't have the right paperwork, and those that do have to pay the 'facility fee' for the worst facilities in the region.
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Feedback on Gazette's survey re. new proposed charges:-
Passengers slam Durham Tees Valley Airport access charge : Durham Tees Valley Airport News Stories
I suppose it is to be expected.
Interestingly :-
To be successful in sales then one should listen to ones customers..
Passengers slam Durham Tees Valley Airport access charge : Durham Tees Valley Airport News Stories
I suppose it is to be expected.
Interestingly :-
More than half - 52.6% - also said they no longer feel the same loyalty to the airport since the name change from Teesside Airport.
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Unless my maths is seriously awry something doesn't stack up in the survey and press comments referred to.
They claim they will bring in £500,000 in a year at £6 a head, ignoring kids for ease.
Isn't that some 83,000 passengers? Are they expecting another cataclysmic plunge in the number of users? Thats an impressive 230 odd a day !
They claim they will bring in £500,000 in a year at £6 a head, ignoring kids for ease.
Isn't that some 83,000 passengers? Are they expecting another cataclysmic plunge in the number of users? Thats an impressive 230 odd a day !
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I think you may be right.
Pax numbers for rolling year to Sept.10 is 266,830.
On a ratio of 4 adults to 1 child my calculations show the income generated will be £1,440,882 per year.
Pax numbers for rolling year to Sept.10 is 266,830.
On a ratio of 4 adults to 1 child my calculations show the income generated will be £1,440,882 per year.
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I presume it's only collected off outbound pax so that would be £0.5m collected off a total of about 166,000. Still a long way short of the 266,000 though. Are they making some pax categories exempt?
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I heard a priceless interview on Radio Newcastle with the CEO of DTV moaning that APD was killing the charter and infrequent SLF trade as "folks resent having to pay taxes" or words to that effect.
There is no issue then with their own departure charges then I assume? Bit rich moaning that Government was adding to the cost which puts people off and then stump your own charge, but that's ok then.
There is no issue then with their own departure charges then I assume? Bit rich moaning that Government was adding to the cost which puts people off and then stump your own charge, but that's ok then.