DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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Playing football with my son Preston Park lunch time.
Large 4 engine transport light blue & white on climbout fromTeesside behind the clouds most of the time!
Any Ideas?
Large 4 engine transport light blue & white on climbout fromTeesside behind the clouds most of the time!
Any Ideas?
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Charges
BBC News reported this morning that DTV is to charge all passengers 6 pounds every time they use the airport. VAS were interviewed and they mentioned owners couldn't keep writing out cheques for a loss making business and the airport may have to close if these kind of steps are not introduced! Not good IMO - more reason to use NCL.
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Blackpool introduced a £10 per passenger 'Airport Development Fee' in January 2009 and soon after Ryanair pulled out. The future of DTV is not looking good.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire!!!!!
Out of the frying pan and into the fire!!!!!
DTV Charges
Great start for VAS !! is this a sign of things to come? By my reckoning thats a maximum of only 750K raised.
Me thinks this is a massive OG for such a small punitive tax.I know up at Newcastle there was uproar at having to pay a pound or so to use the car parks.What will this do for local suppoort?
More harm than good and what is next??
Pound to use the aircraft steps??
Pound to walk across the tarmac ??
Pound to exit the revolving doors??
No hope I'm afraid-I'm off to leeds!
Me thinks this is a massive OG for such a small punitive tax.I know up at Newcastle there was uproar at having to pay a pound or so to use the car parks.What will this do for local suppoort?
More harm than good and what is next??
Pound to use the aircraft steps??
Pound to walk across the tarmac ??
Pound to exit the revolving doors??
No hope I'm afraid-I'm off to leeds!
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I only heard this for the first time earlier today. So as an observation then how is this to be administered?
The only UK airport that I have come across something similar was NQY. Where it was administered & indeed collected as a departure tax. i.e. you actually had to have paid for a ticket which you needed to present to board a plane. Being "in your face" & not as simply an additional cost at time of purchasing one's airline fare then it did raise it's profile to those who had a grievance. However in NQY's favour was the clarity that your money was going to assist the development of new airport facilities which were abundantly obvious.
As to how this will be seen in DTV's case is possibly a greater issue if seen as simply some form of punative employment tax simply to keep the airport open.
The only UK airport that I have come across something similar was NQY. Where it was administered & indeed collected as a departure tax. i.e. you actually had to have paid for a ticket which you needed to present to board a plane. Being "in your face" & not as simply an additional cost at time of purchasing one's airline fare then it did raise it's profile to those who had a grievance. However in NQY's favour was the clarity that your money was going to assist the development of new airport facilities which were abundantly obvious.
As to how this will be seen in DTV's case is possibly a greater issue if seen as simply some form of punative employment tax simply to keep the airport open.
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According to the official story on the airport website, you will have to buy a ticket from a machine and then present it when you go through security.
I've experienced this in Peru, at both Lima and Cusco airports - in fact you queue up before going through security to pay for your ticket as part of the process of going through to departures.
Hope it works for DTV. It's not going to be popular.
I've experienced this in Peru, at both Lima and Cusco airports - in fact you queue up before going through security to pay for your ticket as part of the process of going through to departures.
Hope it works for DTV. It's not going to be popular.
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Peel tried to build custom by making it cheaper to fly from the airport. This didn't work.
VAS obviously think that making it more expensive to fly from the airport will work.
Stranger things have happened but this seems to "fly" in the face of all other business practices apart from those at Rolls Royce and Rolex etc. but they have a premium product and a world famous name.
VAS obviously think that making it more expensive to fly from the airport will work.
Stranger things have happened but this seems to "fly" in the face of all other business practices apart from those at Rolls Royce and Rolex etc. but they have a premium product and a world famous name.
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Hmm, I can see why they've done it but it seems the wrong decision.
Perhaps if they want to attract airlines they have to show the airport's ability to turn a profit and this is a way they feel they have to do it.
The comment from Mr Richmond
“If I was a businessperson here I would much prefer to fly from an airport like this rather than Heathrow or Gawtick where, with all due respect, you are a widget in a big machine.”
Although I'm sure in good intentions makes little sense. If I want to transit via Amsterdam then, yes, Teesside is great but that's it! It sounds desperate if anything. As is the comment of people living within 50 miles will understand the charge. They simply won't understand it, they'll go to NCL or LBA where they can use facilities for free.
People did rally against the NCL car park charges but they did maintain a free zone and when they can fly where they want to, see investment in terms of shopping and facilities then they will be less likely to complain.
The problem will be people understanding this and not taking business elsewhere, it may not affect the businessman on Eastern or KLM as he might not be paying the cost but the leisure traveller might be put off which won't attract those charter or lo-co's or scheduleds. (looking at local press comments it seems it's already going down like a brick in the Tees)
Perhaps if they want to attract airlines they have to show the airport's ability to turn a profit and this is a way they feel they have to do it.
The comment from Mr Richmond
“If I was a businessperson here I would much prefer to fly from an airport like this rather than Heathrow or Gawtick where, with all due respect, you are a widget in a big machine.”
Although I'm sure in good intentions makes little sense. If I want to transit via Amsterdam then, yes, Teesside is great but that's it! It sounds desperate if anything. As is the comment of people living within 50 miles will understand the charge. They simply won't understand it, they'll go to NCL or LBA where they can use facilities for free.
People did rally against the NCL car park charges but they did maintain a free zone and when they can fly where they want to, see investment in terms of shopping and facilities then they will be less likely to complain.
The problem will be people understanding this and not taking business elsewhere, it may not affect the businessman on Eastern or KLM as he might not be paying the cost but the leisure traveller might be put off which won't attract those charter or lo-co's or scheduleds. (looking at local press comments it seems it's already going down like a brick in the Tees)
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Personally, I wouldn't notice an extra few quid on the price of my airline ticket, but it will really p**s me off to have to pay £24 for 4 of us out of our holiday spending money just to go through to departures.
Sorry DTVA, won't be flying from you anytime after November 15th!!
What will they do if people can't pay, don't have cash etc.?? Will they charge extra for cards?!
Will airlines be warning people of this? I bet the airlines are not happy!
Sorry DTVA, won't be flying from you anytime after November 15th!!
What will they do if people can't pay, don't have cash etc.?? Will they charge extra for cards?!
Will airlines be warning people of this? I bet the airlines are not happy!
Before you can charge, you have to get people into the terminal. To do that you have to offer services. This is nothing more than another attempt by Peel to close the airport and sell off the real estate. Peel are property developers after all.
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Just checked and it doesn't look like it's happening at either Doncaster or Liverpool. If it's good for one airport I wonder why it's not good for the others.
I don't think they are pretending this is anything more than a profit making excercise.
Two people travelling through probably covers the hourly wages of some staff members
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Ted320 You have identified the problem absolutely spot on.
Irrespective of the "colour and appearance"
of the ticket vending machine it will be interpreted by the majority of pax. as an "in the face penalty" for using DTV.
The other downside is that the resentment, not to mention lack of cash in pax. pockets will have a detrimental effect on the tills of the other airport shops & sevices. I see this as in reality setting up an incestuous circle where the only possible outcome is lose - lose..... "now lets see we'll charge more for significantly less and expect... what ?" Even this bright idea surely can't emanate from the remaining DTV marketing team.
Reality must surely be "last chance saloon" without this charge then perceived overheads not covered to an acceptable extent, "say guys! lets try & buy some more time.."
Suprisingly no one has touched on issue as to the airlines reaction to this charge, as in effect it is also another barrier to their revenue generation potential from DTV
Personally, I wouldn't notice an extra few quid on the price of my airline ticket, but it will really p**s me off to have to pay £24 for 4 of us out of our holiday spending money just to go through to departures.
Irrespective of the "colour and appearance"
of the ticket vending machine it will be interpreted by the majority of pax. as an "in the face penalty" for using DTV. The other downside is that the resentment, not to mention lack of cash in pax. pockets will have a detrimental effect on the tills of the other airport shops & sevices. I see this as in reality setting up an incestuous circle where the only possible outcome is lose - lose..... "now lets see we'll charge more for significantly less and expect... what ?" Even this bright idea surely can't emanate from the remaining DTV marketing team.
Reality must surely be "last chance saloon" without this charge then perceived overheads not covered to an acceptable extent, "say guys! lets try & buy some more time.."
Suprisingly no one has touched on issue as to the airlines reaction to this charge, as in effect it is also another barrier to their revenue generation potential from DTV
The end is near!
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The Gazette is running a survey for people asking them what they think of the charge with the following questions
Expect tomorrows Gazette to be filled with some tirade like comments and very little positive news
What do you think of the charge?
Outrageous
Understandable
no middle ground there then!
Will the £6 charge put you off flying from the airport?
How important is it to have an airport in the Teesside area?
How often do you use the airport, how many times and what for?
Which other airports have you used?
Should people support the local airport even if it costs more?
Would you be more loyal if it was called Teesside again?
Where do you think DTV will be in 12 months time
Still struggling
Under Recovery
Closed Down
Cargo Flights Only
Which destinations would you most like to see at the airport?
What factors are important in choosing an airport and how important?
Total cost of travel
Departure loung facilities
Range of destinations and flights
Distance from home
Car parking charges
Ease of access
Local loyalty
Full customer experience
Outrageous
Understandable
no middle ground there then!
Will the £6 charge put you off flying from the airport?
How important is it to have an airport in the Teesside area?
How often do you use the airport, how many times and what for?
Which other airports have you used?
Should people support the local airport even if it costs more?
Would you be more loyal if it was called Teesside again?
Where do you think DTV will be in 12 months time
Still struggling
Under Recovery
Closed Down
Cargo Flights Only
Which destinations would you most like to see at the airport?
What factors are important in choosing an airport and how important?
Total cost of travel
Departure loung facilities
Range of destinations and flights
Distance from home
Car parking charges
Ease of access
Local loyalty
Full customer experience