DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
Military flights
Anyone know why one of 'our' military flights went through 'up the road' last night? Talking to a ops friend from catterick last night who confirmed a flight?
I thought we had the monopoly and is usually very good business?? Was it too late for the airport? I think they close around 10 at the moment.
Also I may have missed it but are the September figures out yet?
See KLM still on Fokker F70's when do they change to F100 ??
I thought we had the monopoly and is usually very good business?? Was it too late for the airport? I think they close around 10 at the moment.
Also I may have missed it but are the September figures out yet?
See KLM still on Fokker F70's when do they change to F100 ??
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See KLM still on Fokker F70's when do they change to F100
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MME-SOU
With the announcement of Gordan Strachan as manager of MFC, this should secure atleast one or two seats regularly on the Eastern service as he lives down in Hampshire!
I see DTVA website news stating London bound passengers could use the new SOU service..think this is slightly clutching at straws!!
I see DTVA website news stating London bound passengers could use the new SOU service..think this is slightly clutching at straws!!
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East Coast Trains
From December 2010 train times into london kings cross will also be cut.
From december most trains from darlington to london will call at york and then none stop until london cutting approx 10-15 mins off travel times.
Travel times from scotland will also be cut to around 4 hrs instead of nearly 5 hrs. i expect to see in the next few years less flights from scotland to london as the trains will be more appealing.
hope im wrong but i dont think DVT will get another london service.
From december most trains from darlington to london will call at york and then none stop until london cutting approx 10-15 mins off travel times.
Travel times from scotland will also be cut to around 4 hrs instead of nearly 5 hrs. i expect to see in the next few years less flights from scotland to london as the trains will be more appealing.
hope im wrong but i dont think DVT will get another london service.
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I hope you all realise that the Dec 2009 & 2010 timetables are not completed.
So far, there are going to be NO GLASGOW CENTRAL services coming down the east coast, instead all National Express services will come from Edinburgh/Aberdeen (1x Daily)/Inverness. This means that Darlington will see less trains, along with all stations on the east coast as they are operating more frequently to Leeds and other services operate Non-stop between York & Newcastle heading for Edinburgh.
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...ble-161009.pdf
Grand Central aught to see a few more passengers, lets just say that.
So far, there are going to be NO GLASGOW CENTRAL services coming down the east coast, instead all National Express services will come from Edinburgh/Aberdeen (1x Daily)/Inverness. This means that Darlington will see less trains, along with all stations on the east coast as they are operating more frequently to Leeds and other services operate Non-stop between York & Newcastle heading for Edinburgh.
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...ble-161009.pdf
Grand Central aught to see a few more passengers, lets just say that.
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Winter 2009-2010/Summer 2010
How long does the FR ALC route go on for?
As for the summer season, already we have the following confirmed;
-ALC/GRO Ryanair x 3
-Dalaman/Bodrum Onur Air x 1?
-PMI Thomson Airways x 1
-Bourgas Balkan Holidays x 1
With the following scheduled hopefully 90 % guaranteed;
-AMS x 3 KLM
-ABZ x 4 Eastern
-SOU (fingers x!) x 2 Eastern
Any chance of TCX/BD doing any more services like this summer?
Surely, we can also get a 1 x weekly JER with BE too?
As for the summer season, already we have the following confirmed;
-ALC/GRO Ryanair x 3
-Dalaman/Bodrum Onur Air x 1?
-PMI Thomson Airways x 1
-Bourgas Balkan Holidays x 1
With the following scheduled hopefully 90 % guaranteed;
-AMS x 3 KLM
-ABZ x 4 Eastern
-SOU (fingers x!) x 2 Eastern
Any chance of TCX/BD doing any more services like this summer?
Surely, we can also get a 1 x weekly JER with BE too?
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Thomas Cook dropped us a couple of months ago I think.
Monarch seem to lack presence in the North East, do they still have a charter branch or are they more scheduled nowadays? Either way, might be worth management pursuing them?
Monarch seem to lack presence in the North East, do they still have a charter branch or are they more scheduled nowadays? Either way, might be worth management pursuing them?
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I would imagine most charter operators bases are pretty set now for the next 12 months as they wont introduce flights from MME if they haven't been selling them as part of their packages.
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Actually Monarch might be good for both the airline and the airport. After all it has to be a two way street and there is no competition for Monarch to try and underprice.
I am not saying it is going to happen but if Monarch have spare capacity in the next 12 months it could do worse than cover it's costs by flying from MME.
I am not saying it is going to happen but if Monarch have spare capacity in the next 12 months it could do worse than cover it's costs by flying from MME.
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Actually Monarch might be good for both the airline and the airport. After all it has to be a two way street and there is no competition for Monarch to try and underprice.
I am not saying it is going to happen but if Monarch have spare capacity in the next 12 months it could do worse than cover it's costs by flying from MME.
I am not saying it is going to happen but if Monarch have spare capacity in the next 12 months it could do worse than cover it's costs by flying from MME.
Paarmo - No Competition!! Do you live in dream land? What do you call Easy/Flybe/Ryanair/Thompson/Thomas Cook plus other at Newcastle, J2/Ryanair +charters at Leeds ????
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Stop snapping like a rottwieler 10 and look at the name at the top of the thread. MME has no competition.Then read the post. It is a gentle aside not a rallying cry for action.
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True MON/ZB don't do much in your area, Think they just do Orlando with the 330 from NCL?
DTV could be a good starting point for MON/ZB?
But it would have to be as a kind of Loco Op serving ALC, AGP, TFS?
I really like DTV always have done, And I would be very sad if you ended up like HUY clutching at straw balls!!
Waiting for Jet 2 - But it will be a long wait!!
Where would HUY be without T3?
How long will T3 last?
A friend of mine a senior T3 J41 Driver has told me all 'What goes on at T3' and that it could all end tomorrow?
Sometimes there is only 1 crew on standby in the whole of the uk!!
And he has to run to change aircraft most of the time at ABZ, It's a crazy operating procedure.
I have't seen him since January so that says something!!
Back to MON, I think they could work well at DTV and just use a single 320 or 321 on certain flights ie TFS.
But can MON/ZB be trusted after the BLK 'Fiasco'?
I would gamble.
DTV could be a good starting point for MON/ZB?
But it would have to be as a kind of Loco Op serving ALC, AGP, TFS?
I really like DTV always have done, And I would be very sad if you ended up like HUY clutching at straw balls!!
Waiting for Jet 2 - But it will be a long wait!!
Where would HUY be without T3?
How long will T3 last?
A friend of mine a senior T3 J41 Driver has told me all 'What goes on at T3' and that it could all end tomorrow?
Sometimes there is only 1 crew on standby in the whole of the uk!!
And he has to run to change aircraft most of the time at ABZ, It's a crazy operating procedure.
I have't seen him since January so that says something!!
Back to MON, I think they could work well at DTV and just use a single 320 or 321 on certain flights ie TFS.
But can MON/ZB be trusted after the BLK 'Fiasco'?
I would gamble.
I really like DTV always have done, And I would be very sad if you ended up like HUY clutching at straw balls!!
Waiting for Jet 2 - But it will be a long wait!!
Where would HUY be without T3?
Waiting for Jet 2 - But it will be a long wait!!
Where would HUY be without T3?
HUY also have KLM, the second busiest heliport supportin the offshore gas fields and some maintainence operations on the airfield. It is reportidly still returning a profit. Im not sure of DTV's accounts but Peel Airports division are hardly stable.
If anything i would suggest that, with BMIbaby highlighting, that airports like DTV and HUY struggle to work with that type of lo-co operation. Unfortunately DTV have found out the hard way.
I would also suggest that MME is in a worse position that HUY competition wise. NCL and LBA having attracted most of the airlines thinkable. DSA has hardly made a big impact in Yorkshire.
I also dont understand why you think Jet2 at HUY is unlikely. I have it from a number of reliable people that it is in for a chance, just not next year.
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With TOM decreasing services at nearby DSA, I wouldn't be surprised if LS made an offer there?
DSA, DTV & HUY all need to work together as funny as it seems in order to remain operational.
We know that it is Highly unlikely that LS will go into DTV, Due to NCL, Unless they vacate NCL for any reason.
So MON/ZB would be more suited with DTV.
And DSA or HUY would be suited to LS & EZY and maybe FR at DSA?
I cannot see FR returning to HUY anytime.
A strategy can be worked out where nobody upsets one another, By using certain smaller airports.
What we don't want is LS V FR at Airports and LS V TOM or TOM V EZY or whatever.
That will not achieve anything in the long term.
FR have got STN so leave them to STN.
LS have got LBIA so leave them to LBIA
I can see trouble ahead at LBIA when FR come into the theatre?
But we have DSA, LBIA & HUY all in a radius of about an hour, And there are only so many people travelling now with the Euro Zone taking a kicking.
These Airports need to sit down and work out a 10 year survival plan ASAP!!
DSA, DTV & HUY all need to work together as funny as it seems in order to remain operational.
We know that it is Highly unlikely that LS will go into DTV, Due to NCL, Unless they vacate NCL for any reason.
So MON/ZB would be more suited with DTV.
And DSA or HUY would be suited to LS & EZY and maybe FR at DSA?
I cannot see FR returning to HUY anytime.
A strategy can be worked out where nobody upsets one another, By using certain smaller airports.
What we don't want is LS V FR at Airports and LS V TOM or TOM V EZY or whatever.
That will not achieve anything in the long term.
FR have got STN so leave them to STN.
LS have got LBIA so leave them to LBIA
I can see trouble ahead at LBIA when FR come into the theatre?
But we have DSA, LBIA & HUY all in a radius of about an hour, And there are only so many people travelling now with the Euro Zone taking a kicking.
These Airports need to sit down and work out a 10 year survival plan ASAP!!
But all of that is assuming that the airports you mention all rely solely on airline pax revenue. I would suggest that diversity is the key to a strong future.
Ive posted elsewhere that DSA is a highly unlikely choice for LS. Its from the horses mouth too, so to speak... Easyjet would be great for DSA, it aint gonna happen though. TOM will continue to increase/decrease their movements and offerings in line with the fickle trends of pax. FR will not return to HUY but they will be running summer only routes from DSA and DTV excluding DUB.
Returning back to the thread topic though. I dont think there is much else for airports like HUY and DTV to do except clutch at straws. Just look at other airports this size, most that have had significant growth rely largely on one airline for that. All it takes is one successful airline.... May never happen but you never know when things look up.
Ive posted elsewhere that DSA is a highly unlikely choice for LS. Its from the horses mouth too, so to speak... Easyjet would be great for DSA, it aint gonna happen though. TOM will continue to increase/decrease their movements and offerings in line with the fickle trends of pax. FR will not return to HUY but they will be running summer only routes from DSA and DTV excluding DUB.
Returning back to the thread topic though. I dont think there is much else for airports like HUY and DTV to do except clutch at straws. Just look at other airports this size, most that have had significant growth rely largely on one airline for that. All it takes is one successful airline.... May never happen but you never know when things look up.
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Paarmo - Thank you but I did know I was on the MME thread
I say again if you think Newcastle and Leeds are no competition to MME then you need to lift your head out of the sand!
"rottwieler" no, realist yes!
I say again if you think Newcastle and Leeds are no competition to MME then you need to lift your head out of the sand!
"rottwieler" no, realist yes!
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Dear 10, being a mackem I can understand how you get confiused about airports. Airshows are more your forte I understand. Your hidden apology is accepted and I hope that one day you will visit an international airport other than to fly from it. I am sure that you would enjoy your visit and if it is to Teesside then we may be able to arrange an aircraft or two for you to see. ( Little single engine one person no standing and no toilets type of course )
Best wishes P.
AndrewC, Thank you for your input and I think I can fight my corner against anyone.
As another aside I hear that some Germans were getting the VIP treatment last week.
Best wishes P.
AndrewC, Thank you for your input and I think I can fight my corner against anyone.
As another aside I hear that some Germans were getting the VIP treatment last week.