DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
Jet 2 at DTV
good to see Jet 2 737 x 2 at DTV today.Hope its a sign of the times? I get the feeling this might be more than crew training and might be a test to see if the airport can cope?
how about 3 x week to alicante and belfast to start with? Couple of palmas and you have a nice little one aircraft w pattern from leeds/newcastel at no great cost?
also think its about time someone like air berlin/norwegian low cost could work? again couple of times a week.
It seems to have gone pretty quiet up the road at newcastle with new routes..maybe its our turn?
fingers crossed
how about 3 x week to alicante and belfast to start with? Couple of palmas and you have a nice little one aircraft w pattern from leeds/newcastel at no great cost?
also think its about time someone like air berlin/norwegian low cost could work? again couple of times a week.
It seems to have gone pretty quiet up the road at newcastle with new routes..maybe its our turn?
fingers crossed
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The two Jet2 flights were training, nothing more. I went to see them - first time I've ever been up to the airport when airliners have been in the circuit, something really 'special' about seeing that, don't quite know what though, but it kinda reminded me why I'm interested in aviation in the first place!
On a more alarming note, it's being reported elsewhere that we're losing the KLM service to Amsterdam, on further research it seems to only be the tea time flight. Can anyone confirm, or preferably, deny this?
On a more alarming note, it's being reported elsewhere that we're losing the KLM service to Amsterdam, on further research it seems to only be the tea time flight. Can anyone confirm, or preferably, deny this?
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Will the tide ever turn?
When you are on the floor and nearly out then things only seem to get worse.
First the situation in Egypt affecting bookings to the new Sharm holidays.
Then this Airport second worst for passengers figures (From The Northern Echo)
and then as if things can't get any worse there is this.Airport admits gift was stolen by contracted security staff (From The Northern Echo)
Surely this has to be the bottom of the cycle. Things can only get better.............I hope!!!!!
First the situation in Egypt affecting bookings to the new Sharm holidays.
Then this Airport second worst for passengers figures (From The Northern Echo)
and then as if things can't get any worse there is this.Airport admits gift was stolen by contracted security staff (From The Northern Echo)
Surely this has to be the bottom of the cycle. Things can only get better.............I hope!!!!!
Whenever I look at this thread - I'm always reminded of a bunch of die-hard supporters of the local football team who will turn out for an evening kick-off on a cold wet night in November, knowing full well the team they support is rubbish and will always stay in some backwater division, but refusing to ever contemplate watching the Premier League club whose players have talent a few miles away and who sometime get to play in the Champion's League
Local Govt owns 25% of MME. If MME makes a loss, that means the council has less money to spend on local services. Yes, some of the money you pay in council tax, indirectly, is used to subsidise MME.
How much more taxpayer money needs to be spent so people can save under an hour in travel time when they go on an annual holiday to a beach in Spain ?
Going 35 miles by train or road to use runway 07/25 really isn't that bad
Local Govt owns 25% of MME. If MME makes a loss, that means the council has less money to spend on local services. Yes, some of the money you pay in council tax, indirectly, is used to subsidise MME.
How much more taxpayer money needs to be spent so people can save under an hour in travel time when they go on an annual holiday to a beach in Spain ?
Going 35 miles by train or road to use runway 07/25 really isn't that bad
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Actually 35 miles is that bad when there is an airport 5 minutes from my door. I had to go and pick up relatives from Newcastle last night and I was out for 2 hours 45 minutes where if they were able to fly to MME it would have been 30 minutes. (The A1 was also closed southbound). And they couldn't use public transport as the last train from Newcastle is at 22.45, and it is £40 - £50 for a taxi! Would the people of Newcastle or Leeds be prepared to do this regularly? Didn't think so...
mmeman - let me get this right.
Your relatives flew from Newcastle, because there was no suitable flight from MME, and you had to drive there and back to pick them up. You therefore have had to pay the fuel cost, and also spend almost 3 hours of your time
However, you still want your local council as a shareholder in MME, to continue indirectly subsidising MME, despite it meaning you are effectively paying more in council tax but aren't seeing the benefit from its existence. Forget about Westminster giving any more money for MME - Peel and the local Govt of Teesside are being left to fend for their own on this.
Yes, I know MME might get lots of flights in the future, but where are real prospects for MME's future growth (i.e. name some new airlines and routes which have a good chance of profitability and why an airline would not start them from NCL instead) and how long should one continue to subsidise in the hope that MME will revive before saying 'enough is enough' ?
Your relatives flew from Newcastle, because there was no suitable flight from MME, and you had to drive there and back to pick them up. You therefore have had to pay the fuel cost, and also spend almost 3 hours of your time
However, you still want your local council as a shareholder in MME, to continue indirectly subsidising MME, despite it meaning you are effectively paying more in council tax but aren't seeing the benefit from its existence. Forget about Westminster giving any more money for MME - Peel and the local Govt of Teesside are being left to fend for their own on this.
Yes, I know MME might get lots of flights in the future, but where are real prospects for MME's future growth (i.e. name some new airlines and routes which have a good chance of profitability and why an airline would not start them from NCL instead) and how long should one continue to subsidise in the hope that MME will revive before saying 'enough is enough' ?
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MME has the airfield equivalent of Alzheimers. In its current state it's just a matter of time before it expires. It's staffed by far too many nice people but managed by a team bordering on the criminally insane. But it does have a choice. I'd suggest that it should become a LoCo airport (for airlines). And that doesn't mean you screw the punters! Instead, you combine the entire operation into catering/cleaners/check-in/loaders/security/push-back - everybody doing every job. Make the place a spotters paradise, have a pub on the roof, watch the aircraft come and go and because of the low staff costs (because there are so few) staff, money might actually be made. And there are other opportunies. How about market gardening in the green bits airside? Or even selling rabbit hunting rights? (sort of kidding - but have you seen how many there are?) And don't forget to make it attractive to the passengers, which is the reason it exists. Most GUM clinics would be more pleasant places to spend time. And I'm not talking about more staff, just an appropriate place for passengers to wait for their flights.
Ever since it changed it's name it has gone downhill. I remember one of the prats responsible having a go at me when I called it Darlington Municipal Aerodrome on a PA. I think he had to give his car key back for an unrelated offence a few weeks later. But it should be a brilliant little local airport and it could do so much more airport. Why doesn't it?
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Ever since it changed it's name it has gone downhill. I remember one of the prats responsible having a go at me when I called it Darlington Municipal Aerodrome on a PA. I think he had to give his car key back for an unrelated offence a few weeks later. But it should be a brilliant little local airport and it could do so much more airport. Why doesn't it?
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The Airport management need to realise that they exist to serve the airlines and their passengers. My experience of the previous regimes in charge at MME (going back almost 30 years) has been that they tend to try and dictate to the airlines how they should run their operation,this constant amateur meddling usually ends up with the airline getting tired of the hassle and pulling out.
MME needs to draw in business and if that means making a short term loss to rebuild its customer base then surely it makes sense rather than the current approach of trying to screw potential operators with high charges and passengers with stupid departure fees.
Try employing some security staff with customer friendly attitudes rather than the petty jobsworth dictators that infest the place normally
Try offering free car parking rather than trying to wring as much as possible out of passengers
MME needs fresh thinking. business minded. professional. airline friendly management to get it out of its current, possibly terminal (no pun intended) decline. It could be a great little airport and it deserves to survive and prosper but it needs the quality leadership that has been lacking for a long time
MME needs to draw in business and if that means making a short term loss to rebuild its customer base then surely it makes sense rather than the current approach of trying to screw potential operators with high charges and passengers with stupid departure fees.
Try employing some security staff with customer friendly attitudes rather than the petty jobsworth dictators that infest the place normally
Try offering free car parking rather than trying to wring as much as possible out of passengers
MME needs fresh thinking. business minded. professional. airline friendly management to get it out of its current, possibly terminal (no pun intended) decline. It could be a great little airport and it deserves to survive and prosper but it needs the quality leadership that has been lacking for a long time
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mccdatabase, I think you don't quite understand the scale of the losses. The idea that "if that means making a short term loss to rebuild its customer base then surely it makes sense" is long past. They've already got short-term (and much longer ) losses, so the airport needs ANY money NOW just to keep going, hence all the penny-pinching and the jobsworth security guards on min wage part-time f**k you contracts.
What the airport actually needs is major investment which ties infrastructure to new services or vice versa.
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What the airport actually needs is major investment which ties infrastructure to new services or vice versa.
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Dtv Rip ?
nice to see some new input into this age old thread!!
unfortunately nothing has changed and nothing will.I fear the decline will increase with some rapidity this year.
I note on another forum that the airport is waving all charges for helicopter movements for two months..now can some one please tell me the logic in that one?
I also note that KLM have moved the tea time AMS to late lunch..3 departures to AMS within 6 hours..now that smacks to me of give it the summer and as figures will obviously drop,then great excuse to drop one of the rotations(if not all??)
I think the chances of a low cost carrier are nil full cost scheduled even more remote as the owners as mentioned earlier seem to find it very easy to upset existing customers never mind new ones.The infrastucture of the airport is now almost beyond repair??
the clock is ticking.....
unfortunately nothing has changed and nothing will.I fear the decline will increase with some rapidity this year.
I note on another forum that the airport is waving all charges for helicopter movements for two months..now can some one please tell me the logic in that one?
I also note that KLM have moved the tea time AMS to late lunch..3 departures to AMS within 6 hours..now that smacks to me of give it the summer and as figures will obviously drop,then great excuse to drop one of the rotations(if not all??)
I think the chances of a low cost carrier are nil full cost scheduled even more remote as the owners as mentioned earlier seem to find it very easy to upset existing customers never mind new ones.The infrastucture of the airport is now almost beyond repair??
the clock is ticking.....
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I didn't realise reading this thread was compulsory N. If you don't like what you read then perhaps adult debate is beyond you.
Large capital letters show some character defect I have heard. I can't remember what it was offhand but I will research it and let you know.
In the meantime snide comments do not progress the debate.
Large capital letters show some character defect I have heard. I can't remember what it was offhand but I will research it and let you know.
In the meantime snide comments do not progress the debate.
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The free fees for Helicopters thing is a move by Weston Aviation & not the airport. It should also be noted that Weston are probably the best performing company on the airfield at the moment.
It's probably also related to the fact they've also just rented an office in their building to a company called "HeliNorth" I believe. Not sure what their speciality is (training, charter etc?) but it can only be a good thing?
It's probably also related to the fact they've also just rented an office in their building to a company called "HeliNorth" I believe. Not sure what their speciality is (training, charter etc?) but it can only be a good thing?
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they've also just rented an office in their building to a company called "HeliNorth"
we have our own private base at Roots farm shop just off the A19 near East Rounton, from there we can offer pleasure flights and charter flights with no airport associated hassle
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