DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
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Thanks for keeping this dialogue tight, sometimes one has to state that which is not obvious to some.
For clarity the site owner has 100% control over who is appointed developer, which deals with any conflict of interest issues i.e there won't be any !
As for street names, then again the initiative lies with the site owner, who would in a normal process approach the local authority planners with suggestions & enter into a dialogue thereafter, as local authority approval is required. Subject to conflict of similar names nearby, then they should be sympathetic to names that have relevance to previous use of the land.
Thanks for keeping this dialogue tight, sometimes one has to state that which is not obvious to some.
For clarity the site owner has 100% control over who is appointed developer, which deals with any conflict of interest issues i.e there won't be any !
As for street names, then again the initiative lies with the site owner, who would in a normal process approach the local authority planners with suggestions & enter into a dialogue thereafter, as local authority approval is required. Subject to conflict of similar names nearby, then they should be sympathetic to names that have relevance to previous use of the land.
Street names
Quote...such bject to conflict of similar names nearby, then they should be sympathetic to names that have relevance to previous use of the land.
Peel Place,
Dead end street,
The Peel way,
Non aviation avenue,
Runway gone row,
Sold short side
Conned you all crescent
Peel Parade
Losers Lane
Taxed out Terrace
Any additions and ideas welcome
Peel Place,
Dead end street,
The Peel way,
Non aviation avenue,
Runway gone row,
Sold short side
Conned you all crescent
Peel Parade
Losers Lane
Taxed out Terrace
Any additions and ideas welcome
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Wonder if the houses will cost more near to where the 3 DTV ghosts usually appear? That should give the sales team something to talk about
Whats the time scale for the new houses to be built? Is it 2014 or 15?
Whats the time scale for the new houses to be built? Is it 2014 or 15?
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Indeed Jamesair, another month of KLM reductions. When I suggested the range of outcomes a few days ago, it was clear to me these reductions had to stop soon if we were to have any chance of seeing continued passenger services and sadly, they're not. Of course, even if the reductions did stop (or reverse), we're far from guaranteed a future because of the other pieces of the jigsaw which have to fit into place.
Here is an update on the detailed KLM figures - they're only going one way.
Here is an update on the detailed KLM figures - they're only going one way.
Rolling KLM Data:
Nov 13 - 96,503
Oct 13 - 96,737
Sep 13 - 97,118
Aug 13 - 97,349
Jul 13 - 97,501
Jun 13 - 97,811
May 13 - 98,197
Apr 13 - 98,555
Mar 13 - 98,790
Feb 13 - 99,219
Jan 13 - 99,912
Dec 12 - 100,700
Nov 12 - 101,119
Nov 13 - 96,503
Oct 13 - 96,737
Sep 13 - 97,118
Aug 13 - 97,349
Jul 13 - 97,501
Jun 13 - 97,811
May 13 - 98,197
Apr 13 - 98,555
Mar 13 - 98,790
Feb 13 - 99,219
Jan 13 - 99,912
Dec 12 - 100,700
Nov 12 - 101,119
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That is a loss of 4,616 pax over the rolling year, which is quite a sizeable number. I do feel that KLM will keep the route going as long as possible because of the transfer traffic but there must come a time when viability has to be considered, then they will have to decide whether this traffic would travel via NCL or be lost.
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Is it just me or is one of the things that stops aviation development, particularly in the UK NIMBYs? So lets build 400 houses on the airport so we can have 400 families to object to the airport being used for flying creating noise in their new homes?
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Question about DTV airspace
Re the DTV controlled airspace, is it active when the airport is closed i.e. after 10pm, and what happens if the number of aircraft using DTV reduces even further?
Will there be a need for the airspace surrounding the Teesside area?
I ask this because the Doncaster thread has some questions about their controlled airspace and they have more planes landing than DTV.
Will there be a need for the airspace surrounding the Teesside area?
I ask this because the Doncaster thread has some questions about their controlled airspace and they have more planes landing than DTV.
Drop-off charges good, wi-fi prices poor
The top-performing airports in the study were found to be Durham, Humberside, Glasgow, Manchester, Robin Hood, and Liverpool. All offer free pick-up and drop-off
The most expensive hourly charges are found at Luton, Leeds Bradford and Cardiff. All three airports charge fliers £5 an hour, while visitors to Durham Tees Valley, Doncaster Sheffield and Liverpool John Lennon are charged £4.50 an hour.
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It would be sad to see any job losses, however the airport management need to have a hard look at how they treat pax. The customer service in some aspects of the airport is appallingly bad.
If the master plan that beafer keeps plugging is correct then the shambolic treatment of pax by the airport is nothing more than a top driven scheme to push footfall away from the airport. The airport appears to be winding down, and closure IMHO appears inevitable.
Who are the flymo boys that biffer mentions ? Sorry for my lack of thread awareness but there's a lot of posts.
Ginger.
If the master plan that beafer keeps plugging is correct then the shambolic treatment of pax by the airport is nothing more than a top driven scheme to push footfall away from the airport. The airport appears to be winding down, and closure IMHO appears inevitable.
Who are the flymo boys that biffer mentions ? Sorry for my lack of thread awareness but there's a lot of posts.
Ginger.
DTV 2014 ?
Well what is the coming year going to bring?
Obviously no new schedules.
Movements down due to this years flights dropping off the yearly total.In addition the loss of Cobhams calibration fleet.
Lack of MOD flights.
Figures therefore will stay around the same 150K ish or maybe a slight drop(no holiday flights)
More controversy over the Peel master plan.
On the positive...what new business can Peel attract with their current attitude?
Maybe more work for Sycamore and thats all I can think of..
pretty depressing really?
Obviously no new schedules.
Movements down due to this years flights dropping off the yearly total.In addition the loss of Cobhams calibration fleet.
Lack of MOD flights.
Figures therefore will stay around the same 150K ish or maybe a slight drop(no holiday flights)
More controversy over the Peel master plan.
On the positive...what new business can Peel attract with their current attitude?
Maybe more work for Sycamore and thats all I can think of..
pretty depressing really?
Fire Cover
Fire cover,Interesting point and one which I,m sure someone will answer?
Looking at the excellent DTV website it shows restricted opening hours for the last week .Open,closed,open again etc. I wonder if Peel think this is the way forward? A look back at the years movements especially weekends in the winter...it would save them an awful lot of money??
No need for ATC or fire cover..
Looking at the excellent DTV website it shows restricted opening hours for the last week .Open,closed,open again etc. I wonder if Peel think this is the way forward? A look back at the years movements especially weekends in the winter...it would save them an awful lot of money??
No need for ATC or fire cover..
Police helicopter and fire cover
Already been discussed - not an issue.
I would imagine that the day you can't fly a helicopter from somewhere without fire cover is the day that people stop buying helicopters...
I would imagine that the day you can't fly a helicopter from somewhere without fire cover is the day that people stop buying helicopters...
The police in the UK (as with much of the world) are frequently licenced to do things that are forbidden to the rest of us. Furthermore anyone trying to make a complaint or bring a claim in the courts against the police is likely to be met by stonewalling and coverups. You will need to have a very good barrister acting for you if you want to win.
The police are going to operate their helicopter wherever and whenever they like, and talk about fire cover is not going to stop them.
The police are going to operate their helicopter wherever and whenever they like, and talk about fire cover is not going to stop them.
Beafer
Not difficult, personnel must have training in the use of the equipment and must be available when the helicopter is departing or arriving. The ops officer, spare observer or engineer (if on site) can all cover this role. That's how it's done. You can read all about it in CAP 789 Ch 21 Annex 3.
davidjohnson6
No, the police will operate their aircraft in accordance with the current regulations. Have a look at CAP 612. In the past they have been prosecuted for not doing so. I was personally involved with one such case.
YS
This includes the police, they are supposed to have someone who can use the equipment in case of a crash or fire. Trained by CAA approved firemen.
davidjohnson6
The police are going to operate their helicopter wherever and whenever they like
YS
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