DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 5
German visit
Yes Paarmo you are right,however our brilliant management cocked it up as they mentioned the war!!!
Think you will find 10dme has more than enough experience to pass comment!! -he probably deals with more aircraft in one day than our toy town airport has in a month! Never mind we have Derry airport in our sights now(passenger figures),something to aspire to?
something that has always puzzled me,are we all creatures of the night on this thread?? its amazing how many posts are made around midnight?? Or is that when the tagging is taken off to flex the ankles?
Think you will find 10dme has more than enough experience to pass comment!! -he probably deals with more aircraft in one day than our toy town airport has in a month! Never mind we have Derry airport in our sights now(passenger figures),something to aspire to?
something that has always puzzled me,are we all creatures of the night on this thread?? its amazing how many posts are made around midnight?? Or is that when the tagging is taken off to flex the ankles?
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Paarmo - hello again, the fact I come from Sunderland seems to give you the idea I am not in the aviation sector?? I have been around avaition for most of my life and visiting international airports, other than to fly from them for 27 years. I also spent many years flying those little planes at MME for pleasure. My prune name comes from a MME approach procedure 10dme arc to ILS both for Rw23 and 05.
And yes thanks High moving airliners in DXB now average 30,000 movements and 3+ million pax's a month at mo........
And yes thanks High moving airliners in DXB now average 30,000 movements and 3+ million pax's a month at mo........
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Typical Mackem always touchy. Obviously you had to move away if you wanted a career in aviation because you are perhaps the only city in the UK not to have an airport.
On a more serious note if you are involved in the marketting of DXB then why not give MME a ring and give them a few tips.
I did realise what the username meant. I am thick skinned not thick.
Sorry for not replying sooner but Guy Fawkes was more important.
On a more serious note if you are involved in the marketting of DXB then why not give MME a ring and give them a few tips.
I did realise what the username meant. I am thick skinned not thick.
Sorry for not replying sooner but Guy Fawkes was more important.
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Saw the Southampton Flight circling DTV today, flying over Hartlepool pretty low!
Arrived 3 and a half hours late!
Scheduled Expected Landed
10.55 14.25 14.25
What happened there then?
T34701Southampton10:5514:25Landed 14:25
T34701Southampton10:5514:25Landed 14:25
Arrived 3 and a half hours late!
Scheduled Expected Landed
10.55 14.25 14.25
What happened there then?
T34701Southampton10:5514:25Landed 14:25
T34701Southampton10:5514:25Landed 14:25
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Busy day tomorrow apparently.
3 scheduled departures for the full day. RAF don't like flying at weekends so no training flights. Seems like a good day for a car boot sale on the runway.
3 scheduled departures for the full day. RAF don't like flying at weekends so no training flights. Seems like a good day for a car boot sale on the runway.
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Dear papa oscar,
you obviously got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning. I have reviewed my recent posts and can find no whinging or whining anywhere. If you only had positive posts on this thread then it would be very thin indeed. I am a commentator on MME and what I see and hear are sometimes of interest but usually not.If you don't find them of interest any of the time then perhaps you should put me on your ignore list.
In the meantime I will continue to post with the occassional amusing aside.
you obviously got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning. I have reviewed my recent posts and can find no whinging or whining anywhere. If you only had positive posts on this thread then it would be very thin indeed. I am a commentator on MME and what I see and hear are sometimes of interest but usually not.If you don't find them of interest any of the time then perhaps you should put me on your ignore list.
In the meantime I will continue to post with the occassional amusing aside.
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Will the possible closure of fast jet training in the North of England and it's movement to Wales be a blessing in disguise? All air movements will still have to be over open unrestricted water or ranges in the North and MME is the ideal set down should things go wrong or the weather close in. It may be that MME is to be an auxillary reserve airport in the future with a small dedicated RAF repairs team.
There again the RAF may actually have thought things through and may have other plans in place.
There again the RAF may actually have thought things through and may have other plans in place.
newcastle flights to DTV
although not a great revenue earner,its nice to see quite a few flights that used to operate through newcastle come through DTV.mainly footie charters(arsenal today) and exec jets. Maybe our marketing team have got off their backsides at last????
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Local ITV news covered a story a couple of weeks ago regarding the region being temporarily without Air Ambulance cover. It stated that the helicopter "based near Darlington" had run out of it's lease. Why is Pam Royle (who to my knowledge used to live in MSG) not refering to the airport by name ?
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Spicejetter , thanks, that thread makes interesting reading, it looks like the end of the line for CFS. A great shame indeed. Its been a very long while since the days of Mike Cairnes but a sad way to end. There is nothing good happening at Teesside these days
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Latest passenger figures-Room for Optimism??
October just released
total pax 23440 -58.4% on last year.
The good news is we stay ahead of Scatsta(thats in Scotland) who could only muster 23339 !
total pax 23440 -58.4% on last year.
The good news is we stay ahead of Scatsta(thats in Scotland) who could only muster 23339 !
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am guessing no one is surprised by these figures now this late on in the year.....they are bad we know this - but given that we have for our scheduled 3x70 seat rotations to AMS (some of which get canx on a weekend) 2x29 seats to SOU (5 days a week) 4x29 seats to ABZ (5 days a week) + 1x29 seats on a Sunday and is it one weekly charter now to Spain - we cant be surprised at 58% drops on a YOY basis.
Just read on DTV website the availability of 34000 seats on Ryanairs two routes during the summer (same as this year!).... i think we can safely still make the announcement of "mind the gap" between MME in 2010 and MME pre 2008
At the risk of being put in a cage and asked to say whos a pretty boy then due to repeating here what is already been said a million times I cannot imagine for the life of me why the airport isnt able to attract one...just one... loco (i know airlines are having it tough and we have other airports around us with airlines full of shiny and not so shiny planes) to operate to at the very least the Costas, Balearics, Canaries and at a push to capitalise on what is also popular at the moment - Turkey/Cyprus. I am sure the old catchment customer base of MME has not stopped going on holiday (credit crunch or otherwise) to the point that no flights at all are viable from MME. All i hear when someone from that area goes on vacation and has to go from another airport is - "i wish we could go from Teesside" my parents have flown from Glasgow, Manchester and Newcastle since the locos pulled out - and am sure they wouldnt if a local option was there.
and finally.....if MME doesn't get a Jersey next year from flybe (or similar) the management might as well just work from home going forward and put MME forward for the most carbon neutral airport in the world - which we will win, everyone will want to visit the green airport and airlines will be stacking over Yarm to get in......although as soon as someone turns on the engine of one of those buses (assuming they are still there!!!) our crown will be lost!
Note: On purpose i didnt open up the debate about a route to London for fear of hearing take the train (well NXP couldnt even get that right, they took it back to No10, which is a little more central thank Kings Cross!!!)...with BMI gone, its the car now, until BA launches a 4x daily from LHR on one of its last remaining B757's
Just read on DTV website the availability of 34000 seats on Ryanairs two routes during the summer (same as this year!).... i think we can safely still make the announcement of "mind the gap" between MME in 2010 and MME pre 2008
At the risk of being put in a cage and asked to say whos a pretty boy then due to repeating here what is already been said a million times I cannot imagine for the life of me why the airport isnt able to attract one...just one... loco (i know airlines are having it tough and we have other airports around us with airlines full of shiny and not so shiny planes) to operate to at the very least the Costas, Balearics, Canaries and at a push to capitalise on what is also popular at the moment - Turkey/Cyprus. I am sure the old catchment customer base of MME has not stopped going on holiday (credit crunch or otherwise) to the point that no flights at all are viable from MME. All i hear when someone from that area goes on vacation and has to go from another airport is - "i wish we could go from Teesside" my parents have flown from Glasgow, Manchester and Newcastle since the locos pulled out - and am sure they wouldnt if a local option was there.
and finally.....if MME doesn't get a Jersey next year from flybe (or similar) the management might as well just work from home going forward and put MME forward for the most carbon neutral airport in the world - which we will win, everyone will want to visit the green airport and airlines will be stacking over Yarm to get in......although as soon as someone turns on the engine of one of those buses (assuming they are still there!!!) our crown will be lost!
Note: On purpose i didnt open up the debate about a route to London for fear of hearing take the train (well NXP couldnt even get that right, they took it back to No10, which is a little more central thank Kings Cross!!!)...with BMI gone, its the car now, until BA launches a 4x daily from LHR on one of its last remaining B757's
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Weird isn't it UKLAD?
Excellent road infrastructure to and from the major UK Trunk Road network.Excellent parking and pick up drop off system with the lowest prices in the UK...£30 ish for a fortnight.Decent terminal building. Long runway with good ILS. Excellent weather closure record.Unlimited slots with night operations possible.Large catchment area. No flights.
I know everyone( me included at times ) slags off the management but I don't really see what more we can offer.
Suggestions on a postcard to the Marketing Dept Durham Tees Valley (still referred to by 90% of the world as Teesside) Airport.
As an aside Easyjet have a policy of not even looking at destinations with a train journey of 4 hours or less so I think that the LHR or any other London routes are ruled out as the journey time from Darlington to Kings Cross is 2hrs 25 mins and I would suggest that other airlines have a similar policy unless there are special circumstances.
PS If they organised a park and ride system into Middlesbrough from MME I would use it because it is cheaper to park there rather than Middlesbrough Town Centre. Just a thought.
Excellent road infrastructure to and from the major UK Trunk Road network.Excellent parking and pick up drop off system with the lowest prices in the UK...£30 ish for a fortnight.Decent terminal building. Long runway with good ILS. Excellent weather closure record.Unlimited slots with night operations possible.Large catchment area. No flights.
I know everyone( me included at times ) slags off the management but I don't really see what more we can offer.
Suggestions on a postcard to the Marketing Dept Durham Tees Valley (still referred to by 90% of the world as Teesside) Airport.
As an aside Easyjet have a policy of not even looking at destinations with a train journey of 4 hours or less so I think that the LHR or any other London routes are ruled out as the journey time from Darlington to Kings Cross is 2hrs 25 mins and I would suggest that other airlines have a similar policy unless there are special circumstances.
PS If they organised a park and ride system into Middlesbrough from MME I would use it because it is cheaper to park there rather than Middlesbrough Town Centre. Just a thought.
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Call me mad but my money is still on Ryanair opening a base at MME. The FR map has a big gap in the North East and MME would fill it well. Just about the whole of the UK seems covered with FR bases now, all within reasonable distance except the North East. That allong with the fact that MME Management would probably be willing to do the kind of deal M'ol likes, I don't think it will be long.
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Great shame to here of the slow demise of BMI, remember the airline thats loco subsidiary dumped our local airport and then the main company followed suit not so long ago. Perhaps their present customers are as loyal as they were to our airport.
Just cashed my bag of points in for a few m and s vouchers as they no longer have any flight worth using for me.
Just cashed my bag of points in for a few m and s vouchers as they no longer have any flight worth using for me.