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Teesside still is a massive manufacturing area contributing nearly 10% to the GDP of the UK
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You say "GDP in the whole of the North East England was £38.8bn. That's 2.7% - and that's for the whole of the NE, not just Tees-side."
In a publication today the figure of just over £14bn was given for Teesside. 10%
In a publication today the figure of just over £14bn was given for Teesside. 10%
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Port of Tyne new man.
Robert, that was an interesting article and I can see what you mean.
I wondered if Hangar 1 was being refurbished because of the asbestos problem with it, or is it because Sycamore have moved out of Hangar 4 into 1 being airside?
Lets hope they do turn DTV around, granted I'm sceptical with the Peel/VAS history of running it, but onwards and upwards hopefully.
The new DTV commercial director Andy Foulds comes from the port of tyne authority according to this article.
Routes News - Durham Tees Valley Airport has hires new commercial director
I wondered if Hangar 1 was being refurbished because of the asbestos problem with it, or is it because Sycamore have moved out of Hangar 4 into 1 being airside?
Lets hope they do turn DTV around, granted I'm sceptical with the Peel/VAS history of running it, but onwards and upwards hopefully.
The new DTV commercial director Andy Foulds comes from the port of tyne authority according to this article.
Routes News - Durham Tees Valley Airport has hires new commercial director
Northbound - do try to keep up - was reported in the Echo and on this thread 4 weeks ago
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post7516159
Durham Tees Valley Airport appoints new commercial director (From The Northern Echo)
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post7516159
Durham Tees Valley Airport appoints new commercial director (From The Northern Echo)
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Hangar 1 can be airside or landside, so you can put complete aircraft in the airside end shut the airside doors and take scrap metal and parts out of the front.
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The work was to make safe the asbestos in the roof, but I believe they've done a few other improvements for Sycamore.
Incidentally, speaking of which, word going around the airport is that they're about to receive up to six aircraft belonging to a recently deceased British loco and/or an A300 of some description.
Incidentally, speaking of which, word going around the airport is that they're about to receive up to six aircraft belonging to a recently deceased British loco and/or an A300 of some description.
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Keeping up
DJ6, thank you for that, I must do better 
Yes I'd noted the earlier thread, but the new director had a large spread about his background and DTV in the business part of the evening gazette last night.
There was no web link to the article, but I'd noted he was from the Tyne port authority.
Good to see Peel removing the asbestos. Are all the hangars now listed buildings which someone once mentioned?
Yes I'd noted the earlier thread, but the new director had a large spread about his background and DTV in the business part of the evening gazette last night.
There was no web link to the article, but I'd noted he was from the Tyne port authority.
Good to see Peel removing the asbestos. Are all the hangars now listed buildings which someone once mentioned?
"Are all the hangars now listed buildings which someone once mentioned?"
No the hangars are not listed buildings . None of the remaining wartime buildings are listed though a few appear on the CBA Defence Of Britain database . However as a slight claim to fame I belive that Hangar 1 , a C-Type hangar , was the last of it's type to be built and that Hangar 2 , a J-Type hangar , was the first of it's type to be built ?
The work on and around Hangar 1 is certainly good too see and probably quite a financial investment by the airport too .
No the hangars are not listed buildings . None of the remaining wartime buildings are listed though a few appear on the CBA Defence Of Britain database . However as a slight claim to fame I belive that Hangar 1 , a C-Type hangar , was the last of it's type to be built and that Hangar 2 , a J-Type hangar , was the first of it's type to be built ?
The work on and around Hangar 1 is certainly good too see and probably quite a financial investment by the airport too .
Peel investment ?
I suppose we are all still a little cynical as to what Peel airports have in store for us.Could I make a suggestion...
Yet another another full days traffic lost yesterday(all KLM flights operated from Newcastle) First landing not until 8 last night !!
A real statement of intent would be for Peel to put a CAT3 ILS system in, thereby showing the airlines they mean business and are here for the long run ???
I know the cosmetics help but this would be the real test of their commitment
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Yet another another full days traffic lost yesterday(all KLM flights operated from Newcastle) First landing not until 8 last night !!
A real statement of intent would be for Peel to put a CAT3 ILS system in, thereby showing the airlines they mean business and are here for the long run ???
I know the cosmetics help but this would be the real test of their commitment
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DTV already has ILSs at both ends with two alternative procedures if the ILS is out of action. The number of times a CAT II decision height would get the aircraft in where CAT I wouldn't will be infinitesimal.
On that basis no airline would change their decision-making on whether to operate to DTV on the basis of, at most, a handful of days a year.
As regards CAT III, that's just cloud-cuckoo land. You'd have to be seriously in the market for high-frequency flights by airlines that have CAT III capability before that would look remotely attractive - Eastern? I don't think so. KLM F70s? Maybe, don't know. Bucket and spade charters? Forget it.
DTV is already an extremely well-equipped airport. The facilities aren't the problem. It's the demand.
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On that basis no airline would change their decision-making on whether to operate to DTV on the basis of, at most, a handful of days a year.
As regards CAT III, that's just cloud-cuckoo land. You'd have to be seriously in the market for high-frequency flights by airlines that have CAT III capability before that would look remotely attractive - Eastern? I don't think so. KLM F70s? Maybe, don't know. Bucket and spade charters? Forget it.
DTV is already an extremely well-equipped airport. The facilities aren't the problem. It's the demand.
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demand yes that is the problem..but my argument is if Thomson or ryanair wanted to operate without restrictions guaranteed through the winter they couldn't..could they?
to your text..alternative to ILS is not as good..so that's not much use?
i seem to remember one of the criteria for the BA shuttles to Scotland was the availability of cat 3 ILS ?
bucket and spade charters ?? most aircraft these days I think can fly cat3 ils..you do these guys an injustice!
really though its investment..remember...build it and they will come...
to your text..alternative to ILS is not as good..so that's not much use?
i seem to remember one of the criteria for the BA shuttles to Scotland was the availability of cat 3 ILS ?
bucket and spade charters ?? most aircraft these days I think can fly cat3 ils..you do these guys an injustice!
really though its investment..remember...build it and they will come...
Cat III will cost a big pile of cash. The owner of MME will treat capital expenditure the same way as an investment. Will it give a suffiently large return in terms of extra income from new airlines and passengers ? Could a better return be achieved by investing in shopping centres or other forms of property development ?
Only if Cat III at MME is a really compelling investment for the future profits of Peel Group will MME get the money.
Only if Cat III at MME is a really compelling investment for the future profits of Peel Group will MME get the money.
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Putting a CAT III ILS in at MME is just not worthwhile! True the instances of fog have increased since the Tees Barrage was installed but generally MME fairs well with fog and similar weather. On the other hand if you re wanting to spend money on equipment to keep MME open during adverse weather put it into keeping the runway clear of snow and ice.
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I'm sure the airport would install CAT III ILS if someone wants to give them the £20 million odd it would cost to install!
Also, demand is not the issue, airlines pulling back to the large hubs is the issue.
Also, demand is not the issue, airlines pulling back to the large hubs is the issue.
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The airport has plenty of equipment to de-ice / snow clear, it's just the new users of said equipment don't know how to operate it since the people who did were amongst those made redundant.
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What a crock regarding BA and cat3
Aberdeen is cat 1 full stop, end everybody goes there, ba,ez,kl,lh,af
so why would mme with 7 flights a day get it
What a crock regarding BA and cat3
Aberdeen is cat 1 full stop, end everybody goes there, ba,ez,kl,lh,af
so why would mme with 7 flights a day get it
Shuttle
Talking about the introduction of shuttle long before aberdeen..sorry to upset you .Gla,EDi, BFS and Manc.
Maybe someone with more knowledge than we two could confirm or deny?
Fact remains I am talking about commitment that would show peel mean business or are they happy to lose all traffic even if only occasionally?
Notice the Falcons haven't flown much recently are they stood down for xmas?
Maybe someone with more knowledge than we two could confirm or deny?
Fact remains I am talking about commitment that would show peel mean business or are they happy to lose all traffic even if only occasionally?
Notice the Falcons haven't flown much recently are they stood down for xmas?