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ReadyToGo :- Interesting post, & good luck to Eastern & their SOU service. It apperas to be quite a bespoke offering effective low volume business class only, though I fear the cost may be prohibitive to many. A typical day return panned out at about £188 against £60 ish from competition "up the road".
I hope there are many with your philosophy.
Puzzled though
where in Northumberland is closer to DTV than NCL ?
Its going to depend on timings I think. But as said elsewhere, its a step in the right direction! Anything from MME is good these days!
Puzzled though
where in Northumberland is closer to DTV than NCL ?
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thanks for pointing out the Northumberland bit. When I signed up for this forum, I was up that way and much closer to NCL. Since moved to County Durham, and so MME is closer. Just need to update that.
Eastern's ticket prices have always been surprisingly high. I understand their model and product is very different to that of Flybe, but I personally wouldn't justify the extra cost just for a free orange juice on the morning and a can of beer on the way home. Fortunately, I don't pick up the bill, and it seems that the company I work for has some agreement with T3, because I've never been put on a flybe!
I'm not sure how this route is going to compete with NCL. The timings from NCL are pretty good, the prices (I would imagine will be similar) and the flight is direct. THe NCL and MME catchment areas are also similar, and for Middlesbrough/Durham it might be better for people to travel to NCL for the direct service, rather than go to MME and have the stop in LBA.
Although saying that, typically how long would a Jetsream need on the ground? 10minutes perhaps? Presumably they wont need refuelling, or catering, so just a quick onload on the way down, and quick offload on the way back!
thanks for pointing out the Northumberland bit. When I signed up for this forum, I was up that way and much closer to NCL. Since moved to County Durham, and so MME is closer. Just need to update that.
Eastern's ticket prices have always been surprisingly high. I understand their model and product is very different to that of Flybe, but I personally wouldn't justify the extra cost just for a free orange juice on the morning and a can of beer on the way home. Fortunately, I don't pick up the bill, and it seems that the company I work for has some agreement with T3, because I've never been put on a flybe!
I'm not sure how this route is going to compete with NCL. The timings from NCL are pretty good, the prices (I would imagine will be similar) and the flight is direct. THe NCL and MME catchment areas are also similar, and for Middlesbrough/Durham it might be better for people to travel to NCL for the direct service, rather than go to MME and have the stop in LBA.
Although saying that, typically how long would a Jetsream need on the ground? 10minutes perhaps? Presumably they wont need refuelling, or catering, so just a quick onload on the way down, and quick offload on the way back!
I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE
Taxi in and shut down 5mins
Offload pax and bags 4mins
Walk around and Security checks 3-5mins
Embark pax and bags 5mins
Loadsheet and paperwork 2mins
Start and taxi to the hold 5mins
I make that around 25 minutes minimum everything going completely smoothly.
sr
Offload pax and bags 4mins
Walk around and Security checks 3-5mins
Embark pax and bags 5mins
Loadsheet and paperwork 2mins
Start and taxi to the hold 5mins
I make that around 25 minutes minimum everything going completely smoothly.
sr
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Anyone remember the Dan Air Link City service? I think that used to go NCL-MME-MAN-BHX or CWL-BOH and had scheduled turnaround times of 10 mins. at intermediate stops. Operated by an HS-748, and later a Twin Otter. The Wideroe Dash 8s that bus-stop up in Northern Norway schedule a 15-minute turnaround. Eastern seems to schedule a 20-min. turnaround on the Saab 2000 and a 30-minute one on the J41 on the ABZ-LPL or NCL-SOU service. As there won't be any non-SOU pax on the MME-LBA & v.v sectors, they should manage a 10 or 15-minute layover, I'd imagine.
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Tunisia and Egypt might not be ambitious, but there's next to no chance of it happening from MME. The airlines most likely to fly the route -Thomson, Thomas Cook and Jet2 - already have B757s based at NCL. They would not waste money by running any additional flights from MME rather than NCL. The Eastern route to Southampton might have more chance although it is indirect as Eastern might reduce flights from NCL to Southampton as a consequence of Flybe increasing its frequency to 4 flights a day.
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It's not really bad news. It would have been bad news if Teesside had signed agreements with Shirley's son. It would appear that as inept as they have shown themselves over the past 2 years , even they had serious reservations about an unknown Nigerian bearing important investment opportunities and have no visible means of support. The people I feel sorry for are the people who have applied in good faith for mythical jobs and laid themselves open to derision. That and the people who have supplied services to Excelsis.
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The Southampton route will only work if enough people want to travel to that region on business or leisure and are willing to pay Eastern's fares. The notion from the airport spokesman reported uncritically in the northern Echo article that it is a sort of replacement for the Heathrow service is nonsense. Nobody is going to drive to Durham Team Valley, spend the best part of two hours flying via Leeds-Bradford to Southampton and then get the train to London. They will get the train from the north-east in the first place, or, if they want to get to Heathrow, they will fly from Newcastle.
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At least we seem to agree on something ! My sympathy also goes to those that have suffered financially due to this fiasco. Perhaps if they had access to pprune they would have noted the concerns of many, myself included, who could not have treated the project with more contempt from day one if they had tried.
I do not have any insight as to how instrumental "or not" the team at DTV have been in the resolution of this matter. Incredible though it may seem there are those even more inept who in putting their names to this project, with considerable aviation industry experience, really should have done their homework
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It's not really bad news.
I do not have any insight as to how instrumental "or not" the team at DTV have been in the resolution of this matter. Incredible though it may seem there are those even more inept who in putting their names to this project, with considerable aviation industry experience, really should have done their homework
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On a serious note, does anyone think that this MME-LCY idea could actually work? (I mean the route, not the Excelsis thing)
Theres no direct competition from NCL, and I think LCY supports services to Dundee and Newquay, so why not the Northeast as well.
Sounds like a prime oppurtunity for someone like Eastern? I would say. MME-LCY-SOU sounds like a much more sensible option than the MME-LBA-SOU that they are opening up!
I'm sure its been considered, maybe even tried.
RTG!
Theres no direct competition from NCL, and I think LCY supports services to Dundee and Newquay, so why not the Northeast as well.
Sounds like a prime oppurtunity for someone like Eastern? I would say. MME-LCY-SOU sounds like a much more sensible option than the MME-LBA-SOU that they are opening up!
I'm sure its been considered, maybe even tried.
RTG!
It could work i think, though i very much doubt Eastern would try it considering they pulled their NCL-LCY route due to high landing fees, i think it was that anyway..
Im surprised LGW hasnt been served.
Does anyone know how many of the BMI pax actualy had O/D's in London and how many were connecting onwards? That could be the deciding factor in gaining such a specialised service?
Im surprised LGW hasnt been served.
Does anyone know how many of the BMI pax actualy had O/D's in London and how many were connecting onwards? That could be the deciding factor in gaining such a specialised service?