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Old 16th Jun 2012, 12:44
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Selective yes, as I was pointing out that the southside development has been pubilically linked to the north side airport operation. Don't think too many of us will be surprised if the majority of the southside development ends up being 'logistics' based, with only the most tenuous links to the airport.

The airport is a good hook for Peel to use to reel the LA's in - and in that case, there are strong comparisons between MME and CAX.
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Old 16th Jun 2012, 13:38
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Aviation related or not?

I think most people on here have caught on to Peels plans for the airport, but have the politicians who are now trying to obtain even more public money to fill the Peel coffers?

Will there be another 10 year caveat in the small print where Peel can turn around and tell the councils to take a walk.

Ten years ago Teesside belonged to the public through the councils. Hugh and his associates gave the place away!

"So what are these "businesses related to aviation activities .....that will generate 1500 jobs" exactly ?"

Hip you got it in one
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Old 16th Jun 2012, 13:50
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A bit of recent history

DTV history over the last couple of years enclosed. It make interesting reading. Anyone know if Hugh is still a director with the Empire, and did they ever receive the compo from BMI?

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Old 16th Jun 2012, 14:26
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Northbound - with 175,000 passengers per year, and Newcastle at 4,500,000, do you really think MME will still exist as a commercial airport in 10 years time, regardless of any caveats ? In 2010, Plymouth managed 100,000 passengers - by the end of 2011 it was closed
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Old 17th Jun 2012, 09:44
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SWBKCB, I think we are basically agreeing. Note I originally said "evidentially" linked, and by that I mean an objective rationale of how they will be linked, not just press release fluff saying that they will be, which is all the Peel statement is.
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Old 17th Jun 2012, 19:43
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TNT

Davyjohnson6, I agree with what your saying, but I dont think an aviation cargo facility will ever take off at MME. How many times has the same south side project stumbled at the first fence. They did get a fence out of the ONE grant.

Dont get me wrong I want to see the airport back at the 900,000 pax mark of 2006 as I use it, but with Peel running the place into the ground I cant see it happening now, or in the future unfortunately.

Another question: does anyone know why TNT stopped their air cargo flights into MME and began shipping everything up by road?
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Old 17th Jun 2012, 20:05
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The TNT flights stopped because some bean counter at TNT decided it would be cheaper to move the operation to Poland, when that turned out to be more expensive, I believe the guy got sacked. MME was one of about three UK airports that got the chop, I think CVT was another, may be wrong though.
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Old 17th Jun 2012, 20:28
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Think the 06.00am opening time didn't help much with cargo for places like Leeds. At one point they had the 727s and occationally an extra aircraft was needed.

With the new factorys coming on line in the region there just might be a need for just in time freight. Car parts company Nifco is not far away they have just invested millions in a large new plant.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 12:28
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CAA stats for DTV and other airports

Noticed on the Coventry thread that the CAA stats have been added.

DTV is listed as having 20,879 movements for 2011, where as Liverpool had 69,000. DTV Private flights counted for around 6600 movements.

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...entry-120.html

The CAA link for 2011

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...ments_2011.csv

Do the Peel Empire still own Liverpool or did they give it to VAS under the last Peel share deal?
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VAS decided they wanted out of MME - the shares were all transferred to a different subsidiary of Peel
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Old 21st Jun 2012, 09:50
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More Peel government grants.

News from the Peel Empire themselves.
More new roads using regeneration grants with a suggestion that this one could generate 20,000 jobs and investment of £1bn
Tax payers money building the new road. Construction to start at the end of the year.
The airport director quotes that the road link will place Doncaster Airport at the heart of Sheffield... didnt Sheffield have their own airport until Peel bought it?
Airport Link Road Gets Planning Approval - The Peel Group
Peel Plc do seem to know their way around the government grant system. I wonder if they have someone on the inside?

And if you fancy a fly in at the Peel Annual Aviation Day. Not sure if they have a £6 passenger tax
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Northnbound, you may want to look into how much the plans have changed for the Doncaster link road. When they were told they would have to fund some of it themselves, it strangely now doesnt actually reach the airport

Sheffield City Airport was bought from the local authority for £1, so in effect they got some of the best development land on the M1 for nothing!

See also Media City Manchester.

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New Heathrow northern routes?

While browsing the Leeds and Doncaster threads I noticed this bit of news due to be officially announced next week. Cant see much hope for any further London links to DTV with this operators 3 new flights into Leeds.

Post by LBIA today on Leeds thread:
*Another Press conference is been held next Wednesday, june 27th. This is expected to be the official announcement of the new 3x daily London-Heathrow service by British Airways.*
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ds-5-a-82.html

Leeds must have something which Peel arent offering at DTV, and its not the LVP's
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Post by LBIA today on Leeds thread:
*Another Press conference is been held next Wednesday, june 27th. This is expected to be the official announcement of the new 3x daily London-Heathrow service by British Airways.*
LEEDS 5

Leeds must have something which Peel arent offering at DTV, and its not the LVP's
I thought this was a route to be introduced to guarantee BA kept its LHR slots until something better came along. But I do stand to be corrected.
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New Heathrow northern routes?
While browsing the Leeds and Doncaster threads I noticed this bit of news due to be officially announced next week. Cant see much hope for any further London links to DTV with this operators 3 new flights into Leeds.

Post by LBIA today on Leeds thread:
*Another Press conference is been held next Wednesday, june 27th. This is expected to be the official announcement of the new 3x daily London-Heathrow service by British Airways.*
LEEDS 5

Leeds must have something which Peel arent offering at DTV, and its not the LVP's
Previously discussed from post 1980 onwards - one of the things LBA has that MME doesn't is one of the UK's largest Financial centre's outside of London on its doorstep.
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 08:36
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yessir, Leeds has fog about 30 days a year. DTV and Donny both manage to miss out on this most days.
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 15:26
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Thomson filghts are out for Summer 2013 - only 1 weekly flight to PMI with a Monarch flight number.

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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 15:28
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There never was a Summer ALC?
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 16:00
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Hoping..

I have to say given recent positive comments coming from the airport, I was hoping that Summer 2013 would start to look more positive, particularly in terms of charters. So, one flight a week to Palma....hardly sustainable and definitely not growing. Sigh.

Still only just over 11 months until 2014 details are released....
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 19:04
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Britannia used to run an all year ALC flight on a Tuesday 738s, 757 and the 762 for the summer not long ago.
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