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Old 6th Aug 2010, 13:48
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Out of curiosity, which 319s fall into which of the weight categories? Since MAN started having them based we largely seem to have had the more recent deliveries. Is there a correlation?
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Old 6th Aug 2010, 17:43
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The airframes get moved all over the network for various reasons, e.g. having the plane at a base with overhaul facilities when the time for a check is approaching.
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Old 6th Aug 2010, 22:35
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Yes I know but MAN never seems to get the early aircraft except maybe on a visit
from another base and that has now been like that for several months


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Old 7th Aug 2010, 11:34
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MAN is predominately an Airbus 320 base. Most of EZYs 320s have only recently been delivered in the past 24 months. Any older birds will be A319s. Hope this helps.

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Man is 3 A320 and 2 A319 plus a Liverpool based A319 from Geneva and
soon to be a Belfast based from Amsterdam, but what I am saying is that all
the A319 that come to Manchester seem to have been delivered in last 2 years or so.
What people are asking is are these the higher gross machines
I`m guessing they are as they some of the longer routes


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Old 7th Aug 2010, 12:37
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Ezy Delays - The Real Reason

Today's (Saturday) Independent Travel Supplement, Simon Calder brings up the issue of EZY delays, and how their website for the past month has blamed ATC. As he says - last week there has been NO ATC industrial action to affect their flights.

I think Stelios has been proved right - expansion far too fast.

I have been told by friends who work for EZY that due to pilots being overworked / unable to get leave, that about 40 have left for other carriers, and some crews will run out of hours before the end of the year.

The company should also look closer to home. They have a handling agreement at LGW with Menzies, who quite clearly do not have enough staff. Inbound aircraft regularly blocking taxiways waiting for stand guidance. This obviously eats into turnround times. Delaying flight plans is a company responsibility, yet is increasingly expected to be done by ATC.

I suspect the beancounters are ruling the roost - judging by the amount of inoperative APUs, resulting in cross-bleed starts. A few days ago two company aircraft were delayed on stand by 13 and 14 minutes respectively due to an aircraft behind doing a cross-bleed start.

Time to stop blaming ATC for company induced faults !
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Old 7th Aug 2010, 14:24
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Whalerider--so glad that I was not the only one to moan about good old EZY handling agents -they are a nightmare on a Sunday evening(twice has taken over 2 hrs to get pax thro( and car park fees have gone thro the roof-this was mentioned on the LGW aviation soc blog recently!)
Hopefully Menzies will get more staff soon (have noticed not quite so many EZY delays this weekend) maybe the new CEO has kicked ass!
Think it was a cheek EZY blaming ATC--the LGW tower give a great service here--EZY HAVE got too big too quickly--remember what happened to Air Europe!

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Old 7th Aug 2010, 15:38
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They all ways seem to have crews that run out of hours at the end of the year, my company has operated series of flights for them in December before.
They were also an a/c short most of the week because on of the B757s was tech.
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Old 7th Aug 2010, 18:41
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EZY Delays

Yes they are obviously making efforts to improve things. Now 5 757s on summer lease, 3 of which are LGW based. The whole Air Finland fleets is now operating for EZY for the next couple of months, Air Finland in turn have Turkuaz 321 op out of HEL for them.
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Old 7th Aug 2010, 19:30
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Was the 3rd Air Finland covering for the first Air Finland which was tech most of the week or is it an additional machine?
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 10:32
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Now 5 757s on summer lease, 3 of which are LGW based. The whole Air Finland fleets is now operating for EZY for the next couple of months, Air Finland in turn have Turkuaz 321 op out of HEL for them.
Big business for Air Finland...
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 10:49
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ATC industrial actions or not, we keep getting hammered by slot delays still. Beginning of this week I got several 1:30 hrs delays so we are still being hit with delays whether you guys on this forum like it or not.

Both Spanish and French ATC have not officially been on strike but still seem to work to the rules and work really slow in order to reduce capacity in each sector. That is not being on strike but yet affects us big time with many routes taking us into French and Spanish airspace = still getting slots.
Not too long ago I tried in Madrid together with all other airlines that evening being ignored by madrid ground so we could not push and start. This was also a work under protest and we all kept loosing our slots and I ended up with a +2hr delay. EZY's fault because ATC was not on strike......errrrrr

There are other problems within EZY and yes there seem to be a crew shortage causing delays cancellations but there are more slot delays going on than you seem to know about. Anyway just my opinion being a captain working for easyJet and being based in LGW.
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 11:48
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...but, yours is the only airline cancelling flights on a daily basis. If the others, including FR can cope, why can't Easy....and why continue to insist it is "not our fault" and continue to knock back valid compensation claims?
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 12:07
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Today's (Saturday) Independent Travel Supplement, Simon Calder brings up the issue of EZY delays, and how their website for the past month has blamed ATC. As he says - last week there has been NO ATC industrial action to affect their flights.

Good to see Mr Calder demonstrating his ignorance of Air Traffic Capacity in such authorative style.
Must be a journo school thing, 'write a misunderstanding of ATC Slot management, use one side of the screen only', extra marks for lack of research ...

Mr Cokeman would thankfully score very poorly on the above essay, just because the web page says it's ATC delays doesn't make it entirely correct.
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 17:34
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EZY 757s

Third Air Finland machine newly acquired, and now in full EZY colours - with winglets. Not connected with unserviceabilities.
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 17:39
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EZY - ATC delays

Mr Cokeman.

Your company website says ATC industrial action. ATC at LGW work their socks off to get you guys airborne - often on very tight slots. Your website says ATC - that implies to Joe Public that ALL - including LGW ATC at fault - you are seriously upsetting the people who help you out !

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Old 8th Aug 2010, 18:29
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Looking through it (eJ site), I couldn't find that reference to ATC specific delays. However, that's not to say it may have done ...
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 18:52
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Methinks it's time for the Easyjet / airport PR departments to start putting out a few carefully worded press releases and becoming a little more transparent as to what's happening at Gatwick and Berlin

People see things going badly wrong.... and human instinct means it's fairly normal to think that somebody is to blame.

If Joe Public cannot get easy access to information from a company when things start going wrong (and Easyjet makes it quite difficult for Joe Public to contact anyone in the company other than a call centre drone), then expect mud to fly and journalists to start writing articles which portrays organisations in a bad light
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 19:49
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Looking at the LGW departures again this evening, every single easyJet flight is late departing, with delays ranging from 30 minutes to 3+ hours.

My honest question to easyJet flight/cabin crew who may be lurking here is: are you not getting fed up having to justify countless delays to passengers in your pre-flight announcement? Are there any captains who have just decided to tell the passengers the truth: we do not have enough crew to operate the schedule on time? It must be extremely frustrating for you.

On a separate (but perhaps related) note, the easyJet website still has Andy Harrisson as CEO. Surely it's time to get someone to change that now Carolyn McCall has taken over?
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 20:45
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If you look well before anyways most flights regardless of the airline has delays of usually 30 mins+ at LGW for what reason I don't know but its not just easyJet who is suffering from delays.
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