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Old 6th Jul 2016, 06:32
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Discussing Brexit's effect on EasyJet is absolutely relevant, agreed. It is the type of stuff in posts 4294 & 4295 which has no place in this discussion.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 09:12
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Brexit will of course have an impact on companies like easyJet. It has already taken up legal time and costs just to assess the options before it. The chances are it will either obtain an AOC in another EU country or aquire another carrier based in the EU.
However the truth is nobody knows, because we do not know what the outcome will be in terms of European aviation agreements. Everything at this stage is a guess.
For me, a bigger worry at easyJet is the poor customer services department at the airline which stands to lose more customers at a time when it's short term costs may be on the increase due to the Brexit issue. It is about time some resource was allocated to resolve customer service issues.
As has already been stated, I don't think the calibre of those that called for the vote, or those that exercised that right, are relevent to this thread.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 09:56
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Well said Shed and Mr A Tis..I heartily concur
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Old 8th Jul 2016, 08:28
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The word from Luton is that easyet will be borrowing a Bombardier C-series from the manufacture as early as next week. I guess we will have to wait and see if the rumour is true or not.
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Old 8th Jul 2016, 09:41
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Really? Operated by who? There's only one or two operating in Europe working for Swiss? And who will crew them? If it's to help with capacity then it would make more sense to just wet lease in and they already have an agreement in for this.

I do not think it true. The only reason it was previously mentioned was to negotiate with Airbus - 'give us a discount, or we're to Bombardier'.
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Old 8th Jul 2016, 16:13
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It might well be a false rumour but I am just sharing it in case it is true so I can claim a world exclusive.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 01:12
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C-Series today LTNman?
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 09:16
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On approach to 26 as I write.
Probably a demo, unless??
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 09:31
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Could it not be for Monarch or TUI or even a private operator. I can't see EZY using them when the fleet is moving toward a single A320 186Y operation. It was only a few years back that they ditched the 149Y 737700s so it wouldn't make sense to bring in CSeries subfleet. Again I think iit was EZY it would be to keep airbus on their toes and offering them more discounts or better terms.

Thomson is 189Y 737800 on the shirt haul and the EJets are already in the group so I can't see it being them. Monarch - well who knows. Stranger things have happened!

I'd like to see the CSeries get some success here in Europe.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 10:32
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Rumour is that easyJet are looking at it to replace the A319 fleet?
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 12:24
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Please don't let it be true! A replacement for the A319 could be possible. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just to rip out six seats and delete the second set of window exits and get rid of the fourth crew member. Surely the benefits of having a pretty common type would off set any fuel savings in the smaller CSeries?

The A319 could have a lower cost by a reduced MTOW, 25% less cabin crew, same type rating, virtually zero entry in to service cost, no additional training cost, no hassle associated with a new type, no issues with spare part supply and the operational complexity of split types.

EZY like to keep things simple. I hope they don't go CSeries.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 16:36
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Well the continuing rumour is that easy are going to give it a trial. As I say it is a rumour so could be rubbish. It would be interesting to see who owns it and where it is parked at LTN like inside their hangar.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 16:53
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It is in Swiss colours and has gone to Harrods.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 16:59
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Once you go past a decent amount of frames, the cost of the subfleet doesn't matter.

There must be a reason why airlines are not ordering the 319neo, all the airlines are upguaging to the 320 and 321 - obviously the economics don't work.

EZY is in an interesting position, and if they order the rumoured amount of the Cseries, could put them back in the game with Ryanair, as their airbus order was on the light side.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 17:00
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Its a demonstrator reg C-GWXZ and has flown in from Farnborough. Its starting to look like the rumours are true.
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It is now in Hangar 89 at Luton, the big bright orange one!
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 17:31
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Its a demonstrator reg C-GWXZ and has flown in from Farnborough. Its starting to look like the rumours are true.
We'll see.

As you rightly say, despite being in Swiss colours it's a test/demo aircraft (FTV5), so EZY won't be flying fare-paying passengers around in it, though they could well fill it up with staff and send it on a proving flight somewhere.

But manufacturers do that all the time, Bombardier would be daft to pass up on the opportunity while the aircraft is already in the UK. Whether EZY are seriously considering adding the CSeries to their fleet is a different matter.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:32
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Cor it's amazing what you can do with photo-shop
There's none so blind as those that will not see...
Oh I see, it's all fake. Thanks for enlightening us.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:51
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I don't see TOO much logic behind a CS300 order (unless it was mixed) but I see the CS100 as being a potentially good fit, A319 replacement, noticeably smaller than the A320 (CS300 has 160 seats, CS100 has 133) and thinking personally of Newcastle, I think it could lead to expansion. At the minute we have 3 A319, I could see 2 C-series, 2 A320/A320neo be a good move going forward. The C-series is right sized for domestic/EU city routes, as well as longer thinner routes, whereas the A320 is great for the high density, high frequency summer sun routes.

I really hope they do go cseries, maybe a split order for 100 with 50 each of the CS100/CS300, or just 100, 100's.

Much better economics than the A319/neo which is too heavy for loco

I hope they might go for 20-50 A321neo going forward as well. Gatwick, Luton and Milan would swallow 50 of them up no bother and I reckon would lead to a top up order.
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