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Old 27th Jun 2013, 22:31
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easy... I remember doing many of them myself
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Old 27th Jun 2013, 23:14
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Yep, nightstopping really isn't a new thing for Easyjet at all. There's never been a firm and steadfast reluctance to nightstop AFIK. In fact if it wasn't for the bases across Europe I reckon there would be more night stoppers. There has to be a business case for it though, like everything. BA, LH etc don't nightstop crew to be nice. Certainly on a short haul basis it's all to do with getting early flights into the business centres and feeding into the network. Easy doesn't interline or feed and the European bases often assist in getting early departures and arrivals. That said, nightstopping isn't as expensive as everyone makes out.

Nightstops were also prevelent in Easyjet's infancy aswell.
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 08:31
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Thanks to those who have put me right re. nightstops in EZY.

If the charges are going up at LGW, it might make sense to do a bit more of it...especially IF someone else is picking-up the tab.

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Old 28th Jun 2013, 10:15
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The economics of nightstops versus no nightstops at LGW have changed in the last year as GIP have restructured the charges.

Before, you used to pay a landing fee only and that varied based on your time of arrival - so the charges for an aircraft which landed at 2230 and then departed at 0700 were based on an off-peak landing fee only - which was about 400.

As of 1 April 2013, they have split the charge into separate fees for landing and take-off. You now pay a 247 charge for landing at 2230 and a 752 charge for take-off at 0700 as that's a peak departure - so basically for every nightstopping aircraft, your runway charges have shot up from 400 to 1000 (in broad terms).

Assuming easyJet are paying fees based on the published structure of charges at LGW - which is not a foregone conclusion - then with 50 based aircraft x 180 days in the summer season, it's 5.4m extra. Nasty.
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 10:46
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That make it a very big ouch or a couple of quid extra per pax

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Old 28th Jun 2013, 12:15
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Captain caveman...... I've been at Easyjet for 13 years and have never nightstopped in Aberdeen. Gla, bfs and edi yes, but NEVER Aberdeen. So don't know where you got that one from
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 14:41
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Ramper I've been at easy a couple of years longer than you then and we used to do split duty night stops in Aberdeen on the 737-200 fleet !! That makes me feel old.
We also used to nightstop in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Athens, Amsterdam Liverpool Barcelona Geneva Nice Belfast Madrid & Palma as well !!

Another nightstop for the current list is Palermo. This is for Milan based crew.
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 14:57
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Not entirely sure, but I think there may be Napoli nightstop for the Malpensa crews as well and Linate nightstops for the fiumicino crowd.
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Old 28th Jun 2013, 15:10
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So basically if U2 took on some of the to be dropped BE routes it's beyond the realms that aircraft will night stop where a U2 base doesn't exist !


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Old 29th Jun 2013, 18:56
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Mobile boarding cards are now being trialled at 37 airports. At what point does the super-base Gatwick come on line and when does the whole scheme cease to be a trial and instead become part of the mainstream operation ?
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Old 29th Jun 2013, 23:12
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Naples is nightstop for Malpensa
Palermo is nightstop for Fiumicino
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 08:12
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Nightstop and related..

Belfast City x 4 daily first arrival 0820 LGW
Bergerac
Guernsey x 5 daily first arrival 0805 LGW
Inverness x 3 daily first arrival 0850 LGW
Isle of Man x 4 daily first arrival 0820 LGW
Jersey x 4 daily first arrival 0805 LGW
Newcastle x 3 daily first arrival 0755 LGW
Newquay x 3 daily first arrival 0825 LGW

Above is a typical Monday in Summer timetable for BE at LGW, 7 early morning arrivals. Each of these arrivals (slots) would require an aircraft overnighting outside of LGW. Unless the slots are used at base airports, can we expect:
(a) additional nightstops
(b) new base (s) being set up and
(c) that some of the existing routes will be maintained.

I have a strong feeling that IOM will reach a deal to secure an INV type arrangement, given that BE were the most frequency London service and it being an Island etc, the IOM gov will want retain it. Clearly GCI will be out, BHD unlikely to be picked up, JER well served by BA so not convinced this market would appeal to EZY, NCL has been canned from STN previously, cannot see EZY going after that, that leaves NQY as a potential, they may see 319 are too big to allot to an early morning slot. So my feeling is that they wont go for NQY.

On a final note BFS had daily night stop, coming in from LGW and doing an early departure from BFS when EI started ops on BFS LHR in winter 2007/8. That continued for 2 seasons until the BFS based machine operated.

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Old 30th Jun 2013, 10:47
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Easyjet in the sun newspaper today over 30 hour delay to Sharm flight.

Doesn't sound too good!
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 10:48
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sounds fine under EASA FTLs
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 14:57
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LGW crew will be night stopping in INV when we take over the slots next year.
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 16:31
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EasyJet will now become the second airline in the UK to operate A320's with Sharklets fitted. All EasyJet A320 delivered from September (G-EZWM onwards) will have Sharklets fitted.
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 22:57
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First A320 with sharkets will be delivered 21st August!

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Old 2nd Jul 2013, 11:28
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Reuters has dispatched this news:
Easyjet's estranged founder Stelios Haji-Ioannou said on Monday he would vote against the budget airline's plan to buy 135 new Airbus planes because they were not needed
I feel very sorry for EZY folks, it's ridiculous.
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Old 2nd Jul 2013, 12:57
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Don't feel too sorry. Have you seen the share price?
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Old 2nd Jul 2013, 15:36
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Don't feel too sorry. Have you seen the share price?
Slightly down today, but what's the point here? The shareholder's short-term gains do not necessarily support job creations nor the future growth of the enterprise, what's more important?
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