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Just read easyJet to launch new routes to Iceland
You mean you didnt read the many posts about it earlier
You mean you didnt read the many posts about it earlier
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How long would it normally take for routes which are showing on the mobile app to become available for sale? I think the Manchester - Mykonos route is one which will work very well especially with Thomson coming off the route next year.
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We need a MAN-Antalya flight for next May, was literally going to book Turkish Airlines via Istanbul this evening till I saw this thread. When do people think the flights will be available to book?
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But now confirmed
BBC News - Easyjet to launch six new flights from Edinburgh
BBC News - Easyjet to launch six new flights from Edinburgh
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Also Newcastle - Jersey starting. (Replacing Newcastle - Ibiza!)
So total new routes starting next summer announced this week:
Edinburgh - Berlin, Copenhagen, Dubrovnik, Hamburg, Prague and Reykjavik. Based aircraft going from 5 to 7 - 5x 319, 2x 320.
Manchester - Antalya, Mykonos, Reykjavik, Santorini and Venice. Based aircraft going from 6 to 7 - 2x 319, 5x 320.
Newcastle - Jersey
Routes being axed for next summer:
Newcastle - Ibiza
Stansted - Alicante (Barcelona and Tallinn announced a while ago. Based aircraft going from 9 to 8)
Liverpool - Fuerteventura (Brussels, Gibraltar, Malta and Tallinn announced a while ago. Based aircraft going from 9 to 7)
So total new routes starting next summer announced this week:
Edinburgh - Berlin, Copenhagen, Dubrovnik, Hamburg, Prague and Reykjavik. Based aircraft going from 5 to 7 - 5x 319, 2x 320.
Manchester - Antalya, Mykonos, Reykjavik, Santorini and Venice. Based aircraft going from 6 to 7 - 2x 319, 5x 320.
Newcastle - Jersey
Routes being axed for next summer:
Newcastle - Ibiza
Stansted - Alicante (Barcelona and Tallinn announced a while ago. Based aircraft going from 9 to 8)
Liverpool - Fuerteventura (Brussels, Gibraltar, Malta and Tallinn announced a while ago. Based aircraft going from 9 to 7)
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The Stansted cuts are disgusting! Cutting from 13 to 8 aircraft, axing 6 routes with frequency cuts on many others and reducing the number of daily flights from about 50 to 30 in just 2 years is attrocious! These are worse than your usual Ryanair cuts and at least they give a reason for cuts like this. All EasyJet can say is that the catchment area overlaps with Southend. I'm sorry but I don't buy that, there is no way the 3 aircraft and 10 daily flights they now have at Southend damages Stansted this much! They have made alot more reductions at Stansted than what they've added to Southend so to say they now serve a greater area of London is a load of crap, because they have made it more difficult for Londoners to get to their departure point since Stansted's much more accessible than Southend and overall are less flights and destinations than there were in 2011!
I will without doubt be writing to easyJet (again!) telling them what a mistake they are making and how disgraceful the current situation regarding their Stansted flights is! I expect it not to make the slightest bit of difference but all we need is more people getting their point across directly to EasyJet who feel remotely the same way (which believe me there will be hundreds of thousands if not in the millions) then, they may begin to take a bit of notice!!!
I will without doubt be writing to easyJet (again!) telling them what a mistake they are making and how disgraceful the current situation regarding their Stansted flights is! I expect it not to make the slightest bit of difference but all we need is more people getting their point across directly to EasyJet who feel remotely the same way (which believe me there will be hundreds of thousands if not in the millions) then, they may begin to take a bit of notice!!!
FRatSTN - why the outrage ?
Stansted is owned and managed by a private company. Easyjet is also a private company. There is no obligation on either airport or airline for particular routes to be served at any level of frequency. Both BAA (and whoever buys STN) and Easyjet exist to make the greatest return for shareholders.
If there are more people willing to pay more money to fly between other cities, then Easyjet are probably achieving a social good by fulfilling that need. Ryanair play exactly the same game
As an example, to Barcelona, exlcuding the Easyjet daily route to Stansted:
From East Midlands, Ryanair fly daily
From Birmingham, Monarch fly 4x per week
From Southend, Easyjet fly daily
From Stansted, Ryanair fly 2x daily
From London City, BA fly daily
From Luton, Easyjet fly daily
From Gatwick, Monarch fly 10x per week, Easyjet fly 6x daily
From Heathrow, BA fly 9x daily
From Leeds, Ryanair fly 3x per week, Jet2 fly 5x per week
Total excluding Easyjet from STN = 24 flights per day to Barcelona or about 3,600 seats per day, ignoring airports which do not overlap with Stansted's catchment area. If another EU airline wants to fly between Stansted and Barcelona, or Ryanair wish to increase the frequency, there's relatively little stopping them from doing so - i.e. barriers to entry are low.
Given the above, it seems like people living in Stansted's catchment area have plenty of choice about how to travel to Barcelona, likely leading to competitive prices and on some routes, less than brilliant profit margins.
Stansted is owned and managed by a private company. Easyjet is also a private company. There is no obligation on either airport or airline for particular routes to be served at any level of frequency. Both BAA (and whoever buys STN) and Easyjet exist to make the greatest return for shareholders.
If there are more people willing to pay more money to fly between other cities, then Easyjet are probably achieving a social good by fulfilling that need. Ryanair play exactly the same game
As an example, to Barcelona, exlcuding the Easyjet daily route to Stansted:
From East Midlands, Ryanair fly daily
From Birmingham, Monarch fly 4x per week
From Southend, Easyjet fly daily
From Stansted, Ryanair fly 2x daily
From London City, BA fly daily
From Luton, Easyjet fly daily
From Gatwick, Monarch fly 10x per week, Easyjet fly 6x daily
From Heathrow, BA fly 9x daily
From Leeds, Ryanair fly 3x per week, Jet2 fly 5x per week
Total excluding Easyjet from STN = 24 flights per day to Barcelona or about 3,600 seats per day, ignoring airports which do not overlap with Stansted's catchment area. If another EU airline wants to fly between Stansted and Barcelona, or Ryanair wish to increase the frequency, there's relatively little stopping them from doing so - i.e. barriers to entry are low.
Given the above, it seems like people living in Stansted's catchment area have plenty of choice about how to travel to Barcelona, likely leading to competitive prices and on some routes, less than brilliant profit margins.
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Stansted serves London, which nobody needs to be told that it's huge for inbound tourism as well as outbound. With that in mind, whatever alternatives there are at Birmingham, East Midlands or Leeds, they're going to be of virtually no interest to people wh currently use Stansted as their gateway to London or indeed their local airport to fly outbound from!
Load factors are about 80% on average for all Stansted flights and EasyJet alone will be very close if not exceeding that level by being one of the best performers in terms of LF at Stansted. People will not pay any more to fly from cities like Manchester, Birmingham or Edinburgh than they would from London-Stansted.
There is no way that there is a lack of people wanting to fly the Stansted routes. If that were the case then EasyJet would have been cutting back years ago. It's also evident that competition isn't the reason either. They have always had Ryanair with a much stronger presence at Stansted alongside them and they put up with BA and the charter/leisure airlines like Thomson and Monarch (who between them offer quite similar routes) from their largest base at Gatwick.
I know damn well why they are doing it! It's because they are doing everything they can to get the very best out of their new Southend base. That is why these cuts suddenly started when they announced this new base and is why the key destinations like Alicante, Barcelona and Faro are getting the axe from Stansted, because EZY now fly them from Southend. EasyJet could regularly fly these routes from both airports and planes would be highly filled and both would bring good profit, it's just easyJet are trying to make their new Southend base look a stunner to attract public and media attention and the way to do that is to downgrade it's biggest rival airport and reduce it from competition. That's why Fuerteventura and Tallinn have now moved to Gatwick, because Gatwick is less of a threat to Southend's performance.
Load factors are about 80% on average for all Stansted flights and EasyJet alone will be very close if not exceeding that level by being one of the best performers in terms of LF at Stansted. People will not pay any more to fly from cities like Manchester, Birmingham or Edinburgh than they would from London-Stansted.
There is no way that there is a lack of people wanting to fly the Stansted routes. If that were the case then EasyJet would have been cutting back years ago. It's also evident that competition isn't the reason either. They have always had Ryanair with a much stronger presence at Stansted alongside them and they put up with BA and the charter/leisure airlines like Thomson and Monarch (who between them offer quite similar routes) from their largest base at Gatwick.
I know damn well why they are doing it! It's because they are doing everything they can to get the very best out of their new Southend base. That is why these cuts suddenly started when they announced this new base and is why the key destinations like Alicante, Barcelona and Faro are getting the axe from Stansted, because EZY now fly them from Southend. EasyJet could regularly fly these routes from both airports and planes would be highly filled and both would bring good profit, it's just easyJet are trying to make their new Southend base look a stunner to attract public and media attention and the way to do that is to downgrade it's biggest rival airport and reduce it from competition. That's why Fuerteventura and Tallinn have now moved to Gatwick, because Gatwick is less of a threat to Southend's performance.
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All EasyJet can say is that the catchment area overlaps with Southend. I'm sorry but I don't buy that, there is no way the 3 aircraft and 10 daily flights they now have at Southend damages Stansted this much!
I know damn well why they are doing it! It's because they are doing everything they can to get the very best out of their new Southend base