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Are you saying that easyjet employ pilots that are not up to the job ?
Or are you just having a whinge at terms and conditions which you as a group have allowed to deteriorate over many years without much resistance.
Or are you just having a whinge at terms and conditions which you as a group have allowed to deteriorate over many years without much resistance.
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I know quite a few pilots who are on probabtion, or the initial period of 8 months, while I recognise that this is often a time of significant personal expense, and not just type rating but for some yonger starters it is the massive cost of overall pilot training, it is great to get a start, and get their flying career going on. easyJet is a big company and a good one to have experience with.
If the candidate is flexible there are opportunities. I know one guy who starter in UK and took up permanent position in France and all through the first 8 months he was quite confident that he would get full time position.
There is strong regulation on pilot flying hours, and given that easyJet work within these, coupled with level of training and qualification that the pilots have when they start, I would have no safety concerns whatsoever.
Not taking from the feeling/sentiments that you have expressed 737Jock.
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If the candidate is flexible there are opportunities. I know one guy who starter in UK and took up permanent position in France and all through the first 8 months he was quite confident that he would get full time position.
There is strong regulation on pilot flying hours, and given that easyJet work within these, coupled with level of training and qualification that the pilots have when they start, I would have no safety concerns whatsoever.
Not taking from the feeling/sentiments that you have expressed 737Jock.
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Yes I have, and so have the pilot unions! And this is not about T&C's either. It's a combination of an environment with regulations that are less strict due to reliance on self-reporting.
But you are probably right about the location of the forum, so I deleted 2 posts.
The book however is not exaggerated, and the issues regarding EASA are very real. And I find it insulting that you involve T&C's into the discussion.
But you are probably right about the location of the forum, so I deleted 2 posts.
The book however is not exaggerated, and the issues regarding EASA are very real. And I find it insulting that you involve T&C's into the discussion.
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Well i'm sorry if i offended but for a large part of the flightdeck community it is about T's&C's, atleast partly. From various topics on the Easyjet board many explicitly say that they are scared of your profession/role becoming a glorified bus driver. I for one don't believe that you guys come anywhere close to being anything like a bus driver but the undertone of the argument is often about the devaluation of your profession....pure and simple.
I think you are wise to delete your posts as we were skating on thin ice and the last thing I want is anyone to have tea and biscuits and certainly not for things to get into the public domain, things that could easily be taken the wrong way or blown out of proportion.
My point regarding EASA was that it merely brings us in linewith other European countries so it doesn't automatically mean it is unsafe. I don't particularly agree with it and I don't support it but that was my point.
I think you are wise to delete your posts as we were skating on thin ice and the last thing I want is anyone to have tea and biscuits and certainly not for things to get into the public domain, things that could easily be taken the wrong way or blown out of proportion.
My point regarding EASA was that it merely brings us in linewith other European countries so it doesn't automatically mean it is unsafe. I don't particularly agree with it and I don't support it but that was my point.
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punch up reported on easy flight to malaga,police called just before take off from SEN,yobs escorted off of plane,£80 on the spot fine each,loss of holiday,poss easy ban, full story in local paper
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punch up reported on easy flight to malaga,police called just before take off from SEN,yobs escorted off of plane,£80 on the spot fine each,loss of holiday,poss easy ban, full story in local paper
We're in the middle of the rowdy season on many routes, it quietens down for the school holidays but peps back up again for September. Rowdy doesn't necassarilly mean unruly and outrageous and those flights are often quite fun to do. What a shame idiots like this spoil it.
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June traffic figures
Passengers: 5,434,763 +9.7%
Load Factor: 89.9% +1.6pp
easyJet Passenger Statistics for June 2012
Passengers: 5,434,763 +9.7%
Load Factor: 89.9% +1.6pp
easyJet Passenger Statistics for June 2012
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Allocated seating trial
Just wondered how the trials are proving in reality.
Can any Ezy crew on here give their opinions to the effect on turnaround times if any.
Also what method is employed on board to prevent pax sitting in already allocated seats?
many thanks
Can any Ezy crew on here give their opinions to the effect on turnaround times if any.
Also what method is employed on board to prevent pax sitting in already allocated seats?
many thanks
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Apparently the trial is going pretty well. So far, it is having a minimal effect on OTP and apparently plenty of passengers are taking advantage of choosing own seat. All seats are allocated as Someone has already said and a couple of boarding methods are being trialled.
The official line is still very much that this is still a trial but Carolyn McCall has pushed for this and according to the training department it most certainly is a case of when and not if allocated seating is rolled out. We already knew that anyway.
The official line is still very much that this is still a trial but Carolyn McCall has pushed for this and according to the training department it most certainly is a case of when and not if allocated seating is rolled out. We already knew that anyway.
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Well done Carolyn McCall the sooner its rolled out to all flights the better. Always try to fly easyjet and allocated seating is long overdue..Good move IMO
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Yes, bring on network-wide allocated seating!!
I love everything about EZY...apart from their seating policy. I'm over 6ft in height, and I really struggle to sit (comfortably) in a standard seat for 4/5 hours. Given that I fly to PFO 3/4 times a year, booking extra legroom is a must.
Currently I fly Jet2/TCX from GLA, however, I'd be more than willing to travel through to EDI (or indeed MAN, BRS, LON depending on cost) if I can pre-book extra legroom seats on EZY.
Nobody likes a stressful airport experience. Sounds pathetic I know, but when I fly EZY, I'm always paranoid about being at the front of the SB queue and hell bent on getting to the overwing exit seats!! The amount of fights I've almost got into!
Knowing exactly where I'm sitting on a flight, makes my time passing through the airport all the more relaxing. Like I said, EZY are (imo) perfect in almost every single way...just the seating policy, which will hopefully change!
I love everything about EZY...apart from their seating policy. I'm over 6ft in height, and I really struggle to sit (comfortably) in a standard seat for 4/5 hours. Given that I fly to PFO 3/4 times a year, booking extra legroom is a must.
Currently I fly Jet2/TCX from GLA, however, I'd be more than willing to travel through to EDI (or indeed MAN, BRS, LON depending on cost) if I can pre-book extra legroom seats on EZY.
Nobody likes a stressful airport experience. Sounds pathetic I know, but when I fly EZY, I'm always paranoid about being at the front of the SB queue and hell bent on getting to the overwing exit seats!! The amount of fights I've almost got into!
Knowing exactly where I'm sitting on a flight, makes my time passing through the airport all the more relaxing. Like I said, EZY are (imo) perfect in almost every single way...just the seating policy, which will hopefully change!
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Knowing exactly where I'm sitting on a flight, makes my time passing through the airport all the more relaxing.
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So isn't that just an added cost? I have rarely not gotten a decent seat so unless I fork out more money, I am at the whim of Menzies or Servisair? Pay up or back to the 1980s would be my take out.
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I think allocated seating is much better than speedy boarding so i think this is a good move by EasyJet. Speedy boarding is pointless if you are using a bus gate as they put on passengers with speedy boarding and without speedy bording on the same bus so therefore wasting money.
The family with small kids flying to Malaga for their annual holiday gain significantly from a move to assigned seating.
The solo frequent traveller who lives near a major airport, flies with only hand luggage, pays for the ticket from their own money (i.e. no expense account claim) and who doesn't have any special mobility needs really loses out with a move to assigned seating. Being a frequent traveller in a major airport, he/she may use a variety of airlines, so doesn't see a benefit from a Plus card.
Apart from when a flight really is full, there always seems to be a sole unoccupied middle seat near the front exit regardless of how late you board, which makes it easy to get off the plane quickly, be near the front of the queue for any kind of immigration control, whizz through customs (no need to wait for a baggage carousel) and get out of the airport and onto a final destination as fast as possible.
Being assigned a seat at the back of the bus would *really* annoy this kind of passenger.
The solo frequent traveller who lives near a major airport, flies with only hand luggage, pays for the ticket from their own money (i.e. no expense account claim) and who doesn't have any special mobility needs really loses out with a move to assigned seating. Being a frequent traveller in a major airport, he/she may use a variety of airlines, so doesn't see a benefit from a Plus card.
Apart from when a flight really is full, there always seems to be a sole unoccupied middle seat near the front exit regardless of how late you board, which makes it easy to get off the plane quickly, be near the front of the queue for any kind of immigration control, whizz through customs (no need to wait for a baggage carousel) and get out of the airport and onto a final destination as fast as possible.
Being assigned a seat at the back of the bus would *really* annoy this kind of passenger.
