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Can we quit these jibes at each other?
At the end of the day, a commercial decision has been made, and no amount of sniping is going to change that.
We just have to get used to the fact there is a 'new' London airport on the block, and just like every airport around London, its going to be looking for its share of the business. The sooner everyone gets used to that, the better and we can actually get on to easyjet news!
At the end of the day, a commercial decision has been made, and no amount of sniping is going to change that.
We just have to get used to the fact there is a 'new' London airport on the block, and just like every airport around London, its going to be looking for its share of the business. The sooner everyone gets used to that, the better and we can actually get on to easyjet news!
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You ask "What will you get at Southend?" and that's a perfectly good question.
But you and some others seem to work on the assumption that what is there now is what will be there next April. The fact that there is not a very early morning train service from Liverpool Street today doesn't mean there won't be one by then and the same goes for coach services. Or are you seriously suggesting that both Easyjet and Stobart won't tackle any such current shortcomings?
You ask "What will you get at Southend?" and that's a perfectly good question.
But you and some others seem to work on the assumption that what is there now is what will be there next April. The fact that there is not a very early morning train service from Liverpool Street today doesn't mean there won't be one by then and the same goes for coach services. Or are you seriously suggesting that both Easyjet and Stobart won't tackle any such current shortcomings?
So what elso is going on in the big orange world ?
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COV (CVT?) didn't exactly work for Thomson, so there's little chance it'll feature in easy's plans - besides, CVT is more Ryanair than easyJet in terms of low-cost airports - ie a few portakabins and an apron! London Coventry anyone?
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Rumors report Easyjet will not open new Lisbon base due to start in October 2011 and officially announced in October 2010. Three A319 planned for Lisbon base now go to new London Southend base.
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daz211
just a note about the Stansted Express mate. I agree with you that the new trains are a big improvement, but as a regular traveller on the line, from both Liv St and Tot Hale - I assure you that there is no guarantee of a seat at peak times.
The service stops at Harlow Town or Bishop's Stortford as you know - and on most services after 1630 they are packed with commuters.
You ARE guaranteed a seat from Stortford to the terminal - so that's nice!
just a note about the Stansted Express mate. I agree with you that the new trains are a big improvement, but as a regular traveller on the line, from both Liv St and Tot Hale - I assure you that there is no guarantee of a seat at peak times.
The service stops at Harlow Town or Bishop's Stortford as you know - and on most services after 1630 they are packed with commuters.
You ARE guaranteed a seat from Stortford to the terminal - so that's nice!
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SXF strike ballot
German media is reporting about a strike ballot currently held at Easyjet's SXF base:
Unbefristeter Streik bei Easyjet droht | rbb Rundfunk Berlin-Brandenburg
Result to be announced next Monday. This is for unlimited (!) strike action. German union force for you. I hope to be save with not using a SXF-based plane to London (i.e. the 7:00 to LGW), but instead a LTN flight which I think are all LTN-based planes. My guess is that only about half of the flights from SXF are SXF-based planes. The strike shouldn't affect handling agents (GlobeGround Berlin).
Unbefristeter Streik bei Easyjet droht | rbb Rundfunk Berlin-Brandenburg
Result to be announced next Monday. This is for unlimited (!) strike action. German union force for you. I hope to be save with not using a SXF-based plane to London (i.e. the 7:00 to LGW), but instead a LTN flight which I think are all LTN-based planes. My guess is that only about half of the flights from SXF are SXF-based planes. The strike shouldn't affect handling agents (GlobeGround Berlin).
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Will we see EZY at FRA finally ?
It's a bit of an old topic, and I know the FRA WaitingList doesn't really mean anything, but just spotted that EZY got their wishes pretty much:
1230 A EZY8913 31OCT 23MAR 1234567 319 1305 LGW LGW J W1
1300 D EZY8914 31OCT 23MAR 1234567 319 1335 LGW LGW J W1
1800 A EZY8915 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1705 LGW LGW J W1
1830 D EZY8916 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1815 LGW LGW J W1
https://sws.fhkd.org
With the new (landing) runway in operation this autumn, seems quite a sensible time to get a foot in the door at FRA. Mind you, BE cancelling BHX/MAN-FRA soon will leave an opening for them, e.g. MAN/LPL-FRA. FRA-GVA with EZS would be another obvious route, though surely LH would not like FRA to allow that. It's one of LH's money-makers, ask the locals who endure 7-hour-train-rides.
EDIT: There's actually already a EZS request for summer 2012:
1835 A EZS3515 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1815 GVA GVA J S2
1905 D EZS3516 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1845 GVA GVA J S2
Again this could mean nothing, as in the past. But they haven't applied for all kind of routes (e.g. MXP) like in the past, just those two. I've dragged-out this article about FRA considering EZY after the new runway opens (put it into the auto-translator of your choice):
Fraport in Verhandlungen mit easyJet: Frankfurter Flughafen zeigt sich offen für Billigflieger | RP ONLINE
Flugreisen: Frankfurter Flughafen setzt stärker auf Billigflieger - Nachrichten Wirtschaft - WELT ONLINE
1230 A EZY8913 31OCT 23MAR 1234567 319 1305 LGW LGW J W1
1300 D EZY8914 31OCT 23MAR 1234567 319 1335 LGW LGW J W1
1800 A EZY8915 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1705 LGW LGW J W1
1830 D EZY8916 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1815 LGW LGW J W1
https://sws.fhkd.org
With the new (landing) runway in operation this autumn, seems quite a sensible time to get a foot in the door at FRA. Mind you, BE cancelling BHX/MAN-FRA soon will leave an opening for them, e.g. MAN/LPL-FRA. FRA-GVA with EZS would be another obvious route, though surely LH would not like FRA to allow that. It's one of LH's money-makers, ask the locals who endure 7-hour-train-rides.
EDIT: There's actually already a EZS request for summer 2012:
1835 A EZS3515 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1815 GVA GVA J S2
1905 D EZS3516 31OCT 23MAR 12345_7 319 1845 GVA GVA J S2
Again this could mean nothing, as in the past. But they haven't applied for all kind of routes (e.g. MXP) like in the past, just those two. I've dragged-out this article about FRA considering EZY after the new runway opens (put it into the auto-translator of your choice):
Fraport in Verhandlungen mit easyJet: Frankfurter Flughafen zeigt sich offen für Billigflieger | RP ONLINE
Flugreisen: Frankfurter Flughafen setzt stärker auf Billigflieger - Nachrichten Wirtschaft - WELT ONLINE
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Who would like to speculate about EZY future fleet plans.......?
With Airbus taking 2 years worth of NEO orders at Paris should EZY making MOU now, the 321NEO is very much like a 757 so would push them futher into Africa & Eastern Europe but on thinner short haul might they be considering another airframe?
With Airbus taking 2 years worth of NEO orders at Paris should EZY making MOU now, the 321NEO is very much like a 757 so would push them futher into Africa & Eastern Europe but on thinner short haul might they be considering another airframe?
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SXF stike action looming...
An update on the EZY at SXF industrial action situation: Union member voted overwhelmingly (94%) for strike action which is expected to start next Monday (4th July), just for the holiday season:
Easyjet: In Schönefeld droht Streik zum Ferienbeginn - Brandenburg - Berlin - Tagesspiegel
The article says flight attendants earn some 20% less than at AB. Well, seen AB's recent profit numbers ? They get massive support from regional politics (at DUS, NUE and TXL), and still make no profit. AB survives on size ('too big to fail'), personal connections of its boss, and some people just not wanting LH to completely monopolise the German market. Compared to FR working conditions, and maybe even 4U, working for EZY can't be that bad. Berlin's job market is really weak, many esp young people work for nearly nothing. We'll see. The worst-case scenario would be the end of based jets at SXF (just like they did with DTM and EMA). I think roughly half of EZY's SXF flights are SXF-based jets. NB My impression is that people move away from self-organised holidays with budget airline flights back into the safety of package deals as offered by TUI, ThomasCook etc. A big EZY strike will clearly increase that trend for Berlin.
At least the residents around Admiralbruecke can enjoy the strike days: Finally a bit less noise from the hostel guests !
http://www.welt.de/reise/article1337...abei-sein.html
Easyjet: In Schönefeld droht Streik zum Ferienbeginn - Brandenburg - Berlin - Tagesspiegel
The article says flight attendants earn some 20% less than at AB. Well, seen AB's recent profit numbers ? They get massive support from regional politics (at DUS, NUE and TXL), and still make no profit. AB survives on size ('too big to fail'), personal connections of its boss, and some people just not wanting LH to completely monopolise the German market. Compared to FR working conditions, and maybe even 4U, working for EZY can't be that bad. Berlin's job market is really weak, many esp young people work for nearly nothing. We'll see. The worst-case scenario would be the end of based jets at SXF (just like they did with DTM and EMA). I think roughly half of EZY's SXF flights are SXF-based jets. NB My impression is that people move away from self-organised holidays with budget airline flights back into the safety of package deals as offered by TUI, ThomasCook etc. A big EZY strike will clearly increase that trend for Berlin.
At least the residents around Admiralbruecke can enjoy the strike days: Finally a bit less noise from the hostel guests !
http://www.welt.de/reise/article1337...abei-sein.html
I work for Easyjet and i'm not fully up to date with what the real issues are in SXF. I do know that they are seeking a very hefty pay rise. Morale at Easyjet is slowly improving but it's been a hard couple of years. The ironic thing is that from a UK crews point of view, pay has never really been the main issue. In fact, in the UK pay is amongst the best in the industry when taking into account your final end of year pay. (i.e basic+sector pay+commission). The crew based in Italy are on even more so I'm not sure what the pay suituation is in SXF.