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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:09
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Ryanair to axe 200 jobs inc pilots and cc

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200 to go from Bublin base
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:15
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That article isnt exactly headvy on details. I would assume any pilots not required in dublin would be moved to another base like the shannon pilots have been?
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Whose going to fly the planes we have on order then?? How do you "expand during the downturn" by cutting the people you need to support the expansion? Not sure that they've got this correct. Perhaps a similar situation to SNN? Cutting aeroplanes and routes and the Crew moving to other bases.
Seems a bit drastic for company due to make 85 million profit for the year. God what happens if we were to make a loss? Would we all be shot?
I hope this is a sensational headline.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:29
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its very misleading

the article says that there is going to be a reduction of 4 a/c 22 to 18. doesnt fr only have 18 a/c based in dublin for the winter and 22 for the summer???

seems like they are just not going to be as busy this summer as last??

job cuts, sensational headline giving the current economic landscape.

seems strange to be cutting jobs in dublin,when other bases have just gotten a payrise!!!!!
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And how many pilots couldnt be a*sed getting union recognition in the past..
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:46
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Ryanair statement:

Ryanair.com - News : Ryanair Announces Flight & Job Cuts at Dublin Airport

Where you can read the usual professional tone:

Originally Posted by A Pikey
Government’s crazy decision
DAA’s high costs and third rate facilities
Government’s idiotic €10 tourist tax
such idiotic taxes
awful facilities
the useless Irish Aviation Regulator
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 11:51
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Part of DAA statement below.

It is astounding that Ryanair is complaining about facilities at Dublin Airport, given that over the past ten years Ryanair has opposed every single development aimed at improving the passenger experience at Dublin Airport.
Airport charges at Dublin Airport are regulated and the Regulator has sanctioned some increases over the past three years after almost two decades during which charges fell significantly in real terms. During the same three-year period, according to recent independently verified figures, Ryanair’s own charges have exploded:

• Ryanair’s baggage check-in charge has increased by 600% since 2006
• The charge for using a credit card to book a Ryanair flight has increased by 285% since 2006
• The cost of changing a Ryanair flight booking has increased by 66% since 2006
• The cost of carrying sports equipment on a Ryanair flight has increased by 97% since 2006
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IF pilot jobs are to be axed how about we STOP/SLOW down cadet recruitment, and move these guys and girls to bases where the cadets are planned to go. Look after our own guys and girls already through the door first?
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Well, the answer to that should be simple:

£.

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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:12
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Well well.
Why would one be surprised by this?
"Taking over" Aer Lingus a few weeks ago..........Never likely
Where will the 47 a/c go now?
The start of the unravelling of aviation's Anglo Irish Bank?

Place your bets
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:19
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Perhaps it would be more accurate to say the posts will be axed.

The staff will be redeployed around the other bases.
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How do you "expand during the downturn"
You don't. So how do you deal with new aircraft arriving weekly?
It's all unravelling for micko.
How best to disguise an enormous loss announcement? Talk crap about ordering 400 aircraft, despite rapidly scaling back the existing schedule. Unfortunately Airbus didn't read the script so Mickos planned bidding war didn't get started. Not that he wants/needs/can afford the aircraft but a bidding war would distract nicely from the very real financial problems ryanair face.
What will the next invented distraction be?
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It says Jobs to go
Not people to be made redundant !!

Well RYR have always been the masters of the Press Statement.
Read between the lines and we may find that Pilots may be redeployed and Cabin Crew offered a change of base.
Same could be said for the Engineers.

Good point on only operating 18 aircraft ex DUB this winter.
This might mean that there were extra jobs available for the high season which are not there now.

I hear that Pilot Cadet courses are full until June, and that there is a shortage of Captains for the summer so !!!!

There may well be people who are not prepared to move from DUB, but in the current economic climate any job is better than none.

Good luck out there.


Camelhair my god you crawled out from under your stone again, slither back you sound like an old worn out record stuck in a groove.
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:38
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I think everyone is losing the run of themselves here

The '200 jobs gone' = are not gone

They will be 'MOVED' to other bases

However most people on here believe everything they read about

camel = who doesnt face financial crisis?BA luck sick,virgin announced 600 jobs to be 'GONE' = real 'GONE' not 'MOVED', BMI are a mess,Aer Fungus are half full to NYC,Air France losing 200mil,alitalia no comment

look around you

Typical ryr bashing to the usual drum beat = boring
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:39
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Did you dreaming-wannabees really believed Ryanair to hire 2,000 fATPL with 250 hrs...?
With THIS economic situation...?
This is merely the "first step" for the "beginning of the end"...
So. do not waste your time reading the forum about "Ryanair assessments"...
xxx
Other carriers will follow, especially the other LoCos of the list.
The first people that will stop flying are that kind of passengers.
Name them the "rich and famous" with cardboard baggage.
For 2009, their plans will change for driving the car, or take the train.
And long range plans for 2010 might be similar.
xxx
Many openings for flipping burgers at McDonald's... No fATPL required.

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Old 12th Feb 2009, 12:50
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source: International Herald Tribune:

Budget airline Ryanair on Thursday threatened to lay off 200 employees if the Irish government imposes a new tax on outbound flights from Ireland's airports next month.
The carrier said traffic through Dublin Airport, the nation's busiest, was down 9 percent compared to last year, and said it believed that decline would "accelerate on 30th March next when the Irish government's idiotic €10 ($12.80) tourist tax is introduced."
Ryanair said it was prepared to cut the number of aircraft based in Dublin from 22 to 18.
"These cuts can and will be reversed if the government's suicidal €10 tourism tax is reversed on or before 30th March," said Michael O'Leary, the airline's chief executive.
"This travel tax has already failed in the UK and Dutch markets, where they caused traffic declines and sadly the Irish government's tourist tax is doomed to a similar failure. This government must realize you can only promote tourism by welcoming visitors, not taxing them," O'Leary added.
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For 2009, their plans will change for driving the car, or take the train.
BelArg: You're obviously not familiar with the train system in Ireland - its cheaper to fly from dublin to london with Ryanair, than it is to get a train from say, dublin to Waterford or Cork. The Irish governement has to keep the prices up to pay off our overpaid, underworked unionised-to-the-teeth civil servant train drivers.

Just sayin'
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Old 12th Feb 2009, 14:08
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What sounds like a 'better' newspaper headline :

200 jobs 'AXED'

or

200 jobs 'MOVED'

People love bad news,thats why the front pages are full of rapists and murderers and the back pages are confined to '25 jobs created at pig factory' - well woopty doooo
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Choo-choo...!

a797 -
xxx
Well, I dont expect an Irish train to ride the tracks across the Irish Sea...
And to arrive to Waterloo Station in London...
Just the Irish tracks gage, would be a problem, is it...?
Maybe we could send Argentina trains on your tracks to Cork.
xxx

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For what it is worth I work for a rival orange Loco and yes Ryan are our main compition, however I hope this info to be just a rumour as anyone losing their jobs in the current enviroment is a sad thought. Best of luck guys/gals
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