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Button - All other flights ex MAN are Kiss, sorry, again not true. There are 2 Aircraft based in MAN, one as you mentioned, the other operates (and will continue to) NO Kiss flights at all.
The second based aircraft at MAN doesnt just operate for operators other than kiss, thats utter rubbish!viking dont just allocate an aircraft for certain operators it goes on whats available....
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Erm....and your point is??
Didn't I post no flights for Kiss will operate after 1800L tomorrow????
Let's hold back with the flippent comments and see what happens..... being a casualty of XL myself I don't need you to explain anything to me....... let's just say been there experienced that!!
Oh and before I get more abuse....we were told for months XL was financially healthy and given the usual spin by Directors and think back to what happened on the 12th SEPT 2008!!!
Didn't I post no flights for Kiss will operate after 1800L tomorrow????
Let's hold back with the flippent comments and see what happens..... being a casualty of XL myself I don't need you to explain anything to me....... let's just say been there experienced that!!
Oh and before I get more abuse....we were told for months XL was financially healthy and given the usual spin by Directors and think back to what happened on the 12th SEPT 2008!!!
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Button...I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone....
I lost my job in Sept 2008 after XL and wouldn't wish that on anyone,
73,000 holidaymakers affected by this awful announcement.
I really genuinely hope it works out ok for you and all the crew, however PW who is behind this operation doesn't exactly have the best track record and for the benefit of Facts R Us and Mathers Wales....THAT IS A FACT!!!
I lost my job in Sept 2008 after XL and wouldn't wish that on anyone,
73,000 holidaymakers affected by this awful announcement.
I really genuinely hope it works out ok for you and all the crew, however PW who is behind this operation doesn't exactly have the best track record and for the benefit of Facts R Us and Mathers Wales....THAT IS A FACT!!!
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My point is you are mixing fact with rumour.
What i have posted is fact from the Civil Aviation Authority and Viking Airlines. What you are posting is hear say and rumour.
Yes this is a rumour network and as somone who has experienced this in the past with XL i am actually dissapointed that you are so blind to see that the rumours you are posting are having a negative impact on an airline.
Our aviation industry is in such a fragile state and customer confidence will be on an all time low since the announcement of a third company going into administration this month.
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Unless you have shares in cruises, railways or buses then shouldn't you be showing your support to the airlines in this difficult time. If you have any proper facts that proves the official statement released by viking airlines to be incorrect and want to name your sources i suggest you keep your negative comments to yourself.
This is for the sake of all Viking, catering, ground handling, airport and many more staff that would loose their jobs.
What i have posted is fact from the Civil Aviation Authority and Viking Airlines. What you are posting is hear say and rumour.
Yes this is a rumour network and as somone who has experienced this in the past with XL i am actually dissapointed that you are so blind to see that the rumours you are posting are having a negative impact on an airline.
Our aviation industry is in such a fragile state and customer confidence will be on an all time low since the announcement of a third company going into administration this month.
Goldtrail
Sun4U
Kiss Flights
Unless you have shares in cruises, railways or buses then shouldn't you be showing your support to the airlines in this difficult time. If you have any proper facts that proves the official statement released by viking airlines to be incorrect and want to name your sources i suggest you keep your negative comments to yourself.
This is for the sake of all Viking, catering, ground handling, airport and many more staff that would loose their jobs.
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This is for the sake of all Viking, catering, ground handling, airport and many more staff that would loose their jobs.
Despite the recession there is still overcapacity in the market. What we are seeing right now is consolidation, as has happened all over Europe.
It is just a shame that the actions and business practices of PW will make it very difficult for any independant charter airline to flourish in the UK given that consumer confidence in the independent sector has just been shattered again. This is XL all over again !!
My guess is that holiday makers will either stay at home in 2011 or choose to book with one of the big two.
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Anyone would think that this unfortunate event just leaves a market with no consumer choice.
When it reality it will hopefully strengthen the positions of Monarch and Jet2.
People will still hunt out the best deals and these travel company failures are soon forgotten.
Hopefully some of the good people affected by this will find jobs with the other carriers.
I speak as someone who was stranded abroad by the collapse of XL and although this was a challenging time it has not detered me from still using alternatives to the 'big 2'
When it reality it will hopefully strengthen the positions of Monarch and Jet2.
People will still hunt out the best deals and these travel company failures are soon forgotten.
Hopefully some of the good people affected by this will find jobs with the other carriers.
I speak as someone who was stranded abroad by the collapse of XL and although this was a challenging time it has not detered me from still using alternatives to the 'big 2'
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Hopefully we will find jobs with other carriers?!
Well done, boxed ticked showing empathy to the employees. Unfortunately it's not as straight forward as you may think, trying to find another flying job, especially if you're a first officer!
I was with XL and I've been with Viking for 18 months - and I was totally unemployed for the 7 months inbetween. Please can everyone be careful about what you write on here?
Well done, boxed ticked showing empathy to the employees. Unfortunately it's not as straight forward as you may think, trying to find another flying job, especially if you're a first officer!
I was with XL and I've been with Viking for 18 months - and I was totally unemployed for the 7 months inbetween. Please can everyone be careful about what you write on here?
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No-one will step on the 11th hour to provide the holidays to passengers instead of kiss flights.
IF a prticular flight was for Kiss flights only then it will be cancelled after the given period stated by the CAA.
So with no replacement especially at short notice and as stated over capacity then it's simple no planes means no jobs for Crew, Handling agents, cleaners etc. It may not be significant enough at individual airports for some of you to care.
But when you add the total number together it will make a difference. Now for sombody to say it will only effect the crew needs to really wake up and smell the coffee.
So please stop spreading the crap and start thinking about others before you all want to spread gossip which can ruin an airline and so many jobs. So as i said before. If you haven't got anything factual to say then please keep it to yourself unless you can back it up with a reliable source.
IF a prticular flight was for Kiss flights only then it will be cancelled after the given period stated by the CAA.
So with no replacement especially at short notice and as stated over capacity then it's simple no planes means no jobs for Crew, Handling agents, cleaners etc. It may not be significant enough at individual airports for some of you to care.
But when you add the total number together it will make a difference. Now for sombody to say it will only effect the crew needs to really wake up and smell the coffee.
So please stop spreading the crap and start thinking about others before you all want to spread gossip which can ruin an airline and so many jobs. So as i said before. If you haven't got anything factual to say then please keep it to yourself unless you can back it up with a reliable source.
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Button - nothing to see here...
-Man-rho cancelled this morning - in agreement with the CAA, you'll be pleased to know that RHO-MAN will operate though.
-aircraft ceased by caa - what is this supposed to mean?
-man-fua operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
-man-ath operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
-Man-rho cancelled this morning - in agreement with the CAA, you'll be pleased to know that RHO-MAN will operate though.
-aircraft ceased by caa - what is this supposed to mean?
-man-fua operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
-man-ath operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
Button - nothing to see here...
-Man-rho cancelled this morning - in agreement with the CAA, you'll be pleased to know that RHO-MAN will operate though.
-aircraft ceased by caa - what is this supposed to mean?
-man-fua operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
-man-ath operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
-Man-rho cancelled this morning - in agreement with the CAA, you'll be pleased to know that RHO-MAN will operate though.
-aircraft ceased by caa - what is this supposed to mean?
-man-fua operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
-man-ath operating as normal - in agreement with the CAA.
The CAA can't "take an aircraft from Viking and operate it to Rhodes". Who would crew it? What engineers would service it? Who would insure it? If it is operating back from RHO whos AOC would it fly on?
Do you mean the aircraft was operated empty to RHO by Viking at the request of the CAA to bring passengers back? - although that doesn't agree with the information on the CAA website which says that all Kiss flights passengers booked on flights up until 1800 today would travel out as booked I suspect it is more likely.
Do you mean the aircraft was operated empty to RHO by Viking at the request of the CAA to bring passengers back? - although that doesn't agree with the information on the CAA website which says that all Kiss flights passengers booked on flights up until 1800 today would travel out as booked I suspect it is more likely.
Oh dear !
so many knowing so little and posting so much,just as well its a rumour network.
Out of all the posts on this (and other Viking threads ) there is little factual information, so in the tabloid style of "no news, make something up then" we have all this speculation. The are a couple of posters here who have a handle on the facts to date.
Oh BTW I was with VIK yesterday 121 & 323,to the naysayers horror I can report we left LGW a litte ahead of time took off, flew and landed HER neat turn round and repeated flight home, only thing of note was angry pax with too much cabin baggage ( scored me a new jar of kenco coffee and a Robert Ludlum thriller !) I digress,
Careless talk costs jobs, personaly I would stand back and wait untill this evening.
Tomorrow I fly with ******* I wont name them ,just incase, it could happen to any one .
so many knowing so little and posting so much,just as well its a rumour network.
Out of all the posts on this (and other Viking threads ) there is little factual information, so in the tabloid style of "no news, make something up then" we have all this speculation. The are a couple of posters here who have a handle on the facts to date.
Oh BTW I was with VIK yesterday 121 & 323,to the naysayers horror I can report we left LGW a litte ahead of time took off, flew and landed HER neat turn round and repeated flight home, only thing of note was angry pax with too much cabin baggage ( scored me a new jar of kenco coffee and a Robert Ludlum thriller !) I digress,
Careless talk costs jobs, personaly I would stand back and wait untill this evening.
Tomorrow I fly with ******* I wont name them ,just incase, it could happen to any one .
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Button -
Please, please stop talking rubbish, the CAA did not take a Viking Aircraft for this flight, VIK are not operating this sector RHO-MAN as it has been sub chartered due to SE-RHT being AOG due to fuselage damage in GOT.
PLEASE WILL YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE POSTING.
"I've jut got into work.... The caa took the aircraft from Viking and operated it out empty to Rhodes....."
PLEASE WILL YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE POSTING.