1000 Jobs to go at Virgin?
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"Forgot to add, all the money is going east! Probably time to look in that direction as well!"
Just hope you are not under the illusion, that crews from the upcoming cull will be snapped up in the East, because if you are, there will be disappointments.
Might be few jobs going in China or Iraq.
"Forgot to add, all the money is going east! Probably time to look in that direction as well!"
Just hope you are not under the illusion, that crews from the upcoming cull will be snapped up in the East, because if you are, there will be disappointments.
Might be few jobs going in China or Iraq.
A day/week old training course is no problem to get rid off. All they need to give is the minimum notice period under probation which is usually around a week. This is usually done by saying bye bye and giving 1 weeks pay to compensate.
Sad times
Sad times
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I agree that these are very sad times for everyone but blaming the Government is just old tosh. How can you possibly blame Gordon? But then who else can Virgin blame?
I have flown VS many many times and on certain routes like JFK they were great value for money and entertainment. But they have let themselves down with some poor unreliable aircraft such as the LGW fleet and the A340-300's that they have on the Indian routes.
I have flown VS many many times and on certain routes like JFK they were great value for money and entertainment. But they have let themselves down with some poor unreliable aircraft such as the LGW fleet and the A340-300's that they have on the Indian routes.
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I agree with you, VS was a pioneer, great service, fantastic airline.
Would fly VS before anyone until recently. Was in Vegas and Orlando last year and went with Thomas Cook instead - despite them having higher fares.
Come on Virgin, get back to the good times, take a leaf out of Etihad or Qatar's book.
I agree with you, VS was a pioneer, great service, fantastic airline.
Would fly VS before anyone until recently. Was in Vegas and Orlando last year and went with Thomas Cook instead - despite them having higher fares.
Come on Virgin, get back to the good times, take a leaf out of Etihad or Qatar's book.
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I traveled from LGW-LAS last year on VS and it was "BAD".
3hr delay ex LGW, the cabin looked tired and dirty and a 4.5 hr delay
on the rtn.
I have booked LAS for Sep09 LHR-MSP-LAS with KL/NW,
I would rather the pain of T4 and a change of A/C in MSP rather
than try VS again.
Such a shame VS were so good five years back, done LHR-SFO afew times but they have gone down hill now, thats my opinion anyway.
3hr delay ex LGW, the cabin looked tired and dirty and a 4.5 hr delay
on the rtn.
I have booked LAS for Sep09 LHR-MSP-LAS with KL/NW,
I would rather the pain of T4 and a change of A/C in MSP rather
than try VS again.
Such a shame VS were so good five years back, done LHR-SFO afew times but they have gone down hill now, thats my opinion anyway.
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Goldeneye and Daz211, both your cases involve the LGW fleet, which is notorious for delays and generally a bad pax experience. It's not an excuse but it does seem that LGW/MAN are the ugly red-haired stepchild of the VS fleet.
The LHR experience is much better.
S.
The LHR experience is much better.
S.
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I wasn't intimating a job in the far east but that the route structure out of Europe would be better placed looking towards the east.
Although the global downturn is affecting those areas they are 'battening down the hatches' as the west doesn't consume as much as previously.
The economy of China has 'slowed' but is still growing, ditto for India.
Virgin still has the primary North Atlantic routes as do BA, both of which are seeing loads and profit margins on these routes tumble.
Look east young man, restructure the airline to target the growing markets.
Although the global downturn is affecting those areas they are 'battening down the hatches' as the west doesn't consume as much as previously.
The economy of China has 'slowed' but is still growing, ditto for India.
Virgin still has the primary North Atlantic routes as do BA, both of which are seeing loads and profit margins on these routes tumble.
Look east young man, restructure the airline to target the growing markets.
Quote: "How can you possibly blame Gordon?"
Quite easily. As chancellor of the exchequer when the seeds of the problem we are facing now were sown, he was complicit in the de-regulation of the banking industry in the UK. If he had got a grip of the situation and regulated when the problems were emerging, the situation we have now would be different. And you can't say the signs weren't there. Mrs W is an economist by training and she has been convinced the levels of credit and the UK money markets have been unsustainable for some time now.
Which is one of the reasons I resigned from Virgin in 2003 and came East.
Quite easily. As chancellor of the exchequer when the seeds of the problem we are facing now were sown, he was complicit in the de-regulation of the banking industry in the UK. If he had got a grip of the situation and regulated when the problems were emerging, the situation we have now would be different. And you can't say the signs weren't there. Mrs W is an economist by training and she has been convinced the levels of credit and the UK money markets have been unsustainable for some time now.
Which is one of the reasons I resigned from Virgin in 2003 and came East.
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Not all airlines are doing badly.
Easyjet announced their numbers are up (passenger-wise) though margins are down.
https://www.easyjet.com/common/img/q..._statement.pdf
This is a period where the men are separated from the boys.
Traditionally a recession is a period in which market share can be gained providing the company has healthy finances and the boss has balls.
Easyjet announced their numbers are up (passenger-wise) though margins are down.
https://www.easyjet.com/common/img/q..._statement.pdf
This is a period where the men are separated from the boys.
Traditionally a recession is a period in which market share can be gained providing the company has healthy finances and the boss has balls.
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Not all airlines are doing badly.
Easyjet announced their numbers are up (passenger-wise) though margins are down.
https://www.easyjet.com/common/img/q..._statement.pdf
Easyjet announced their numbers are up (passenger-wise) though margins are down.
https://www.easyjet.com/common/img/q..._statement.pdf
