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Why are Norwegian classed as a LOCO? Having checked fares recently they appear almost on par with SK on some routes. The other half also interested in flying to Tromso Feb next year to get the Northern Lights "experience". I am somewhat overcome with the fares with both Norwegian and SK fo such delights.
You will therefore be taking a connecting flight - a service many other low cost airlines do not provide.
You are asking for low cost on a route which is inherently high cost, and I'm afraid neither Norwegian, nor any other airline could deliver that.
I have also looked at prices for LGW-OSL v FR STN-TRF or RYG, and by the time you add on Ryanair's extras + cost of getting to city (even if you don't value your time), there was very little in it. Also, Norwegian are one of the few airlines not to charge you a debit card handling fee.
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Why are Norwegian classed as a LOCO?
This is because the term 'Low Cost [Airline]' refers to the cost element of the corporate balance sheet. It is NOT a reference to the fare structure.
Having a low cost base offers an airline the flexibility (but not the obligation) to sustain low fares. However, as businesses driven by the profit motive, such carriers will use revenue management strategies to maximise profits (from tariffs) just as any other carrier would do.
The frequently noted public belief that 'low cost carriers' by definition always offer low fares is probably the most widespread misconception in the airline industry. Tell your friends and family to check all fares offered on a desired route when booking flights; never assume that the 'LOCO' will be offering the cheapest deal to the customer.
This is because the term 'Low Cost [Airline]' refers to the cost element of the corporate balance sheet. It is NOT a reference to the fare structure.
Having a low cost base offers an airline the flexibility (but not the obligation) to sustain low fares. However, as businesses driven by the profit motive, such carriers will use revenue management strategies to maximise profits (from tariffs) just as any other carrier would do.
The frequently noted public belief that 'low cost carriers' by definition always offer low fares is probably the most widespread misconception in the airline industry. Tell your friends and family to check all fares offered on a desired route when booking flights; never assume that the 'LOCO' will be offering the cheapest deal to the customer.
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Originally Posted by jabird
Also, Norwegian are one of the few airlines not to charge you a debit card handling fee.
On that specific point of your post: even FR have agreed not to charge a debit card handling fee.
I find it remarkable how a partly off topic discussion can go quiet for 4 months, and people then feel the sudden need to resume the old discussion immediately...
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davidjohnson6 -
From your posting I can only presume that you consider me the person who "felt the sudden need to resume the old discussion immediately". The truth is much more straightforward than that. Until you pointed it out I hadn't spotted that the posting two before my own dated back to June. Sorry about that.
However, if the subject matter remains pertinent, should that elapsed time matter anyway? Is there a time-limit for valid contributions to debate on this thread and do you feel the sudden need to arbitrate on this?
On discussion boards we learn from discussion, not from comatose threads.
From your posting I can only presume that you consider me the person who "felt the sudden need to resume the old discussion immediately". The truth is much more straightforward than that. Until you pointed it out I hadn't spotted that the posting two before my own dated back to June. Sorry about that.
However, if the subject matter remains pertinent, should that elapsed time matter anyway? Is there a time-limit for valid contributions to debate on this thread and do you feel the sudden need to arbitrate on this?
On discussion boards we learn from discussion, not from comatose threads.
Arbitrate ? Definitely not - apologies if it seemed like that
Point out something that I find surprising ? Yes
Discussion as to what does or does not constitute a LCC is most definitely valid along with the general hybridisation of other carriers, but in my opinion is probably best discussed on a more general thread rather than just within the confines of Norwegian...
Point out something that I find surprising ? Yes
Discussion as to what does or does not constitute a LCC is most definitely valid along with the general hybridisation of other carriers, but in my opinion is probably best discussed on a more general thread rather than just within the confines of Norwegian...
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The Alicante base will – in addition to already established bases at Malaga and Las Palmas – serve an important part of Norwegian’s Spanish traffic.
Are these 'real' bases at AGP and LPA with based a/c and crew or just a night stop doing some w-pattern?
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Thanks for the info, gentleman. On my bad days when I cant remember anything at all I can get as far as ORK and it's all downhill after that!
Is it Norweigan's intention to keep on with their 737-300s for the foreseeable future or are they due to be dropped as some for new 737s/A320s come due for delivery?
Thanks, again.
Is it Norweigan's intention to keep on with their 737-300s for the foreseeable future or are they due to be dropped as some for new 737s/A320s come due for delivery?
Thanks, again.
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LN-KGL is the man to tell you about the fleet as I know he has posted somewhere recently with a list of inbound and departures for the fleet incl
B787
Over to you LN-KGL
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B787
Over to you LN-KGL
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According to the latest information from Norwegian (info given in the Q3 result presentation) this is the fleet plan the next years. Let's first start with the status at the end of 2011
16x Boeing 737-30 and 46x Boeng 737-800
And here is the fleet size the next years (year end numbers):
2012 = 10x Boeing 737-300 and 58x Boeng 737-800
2013 = 9x Boeing 737-300, 68x Boeng 737-800 and 3x Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
2014 = 5x Boeing 737-300, 79x Boeng 737-800 and 7x Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
The lease of a number B733 has been extended since they can't get enough B738 fast enough from Boeing.
The recent news about SAS being in really deep **** can lead to a total turn around to the above mentioned fleet plan. I guess there is a Norwegian Air Shuttle manual on the shelf named "In case SAS goes bankrupt", and we may see Norwegian trying to hoover the B737 market.
16x Boeing 737-30 and 46x Boeng 737-800
And here is the fleet size the next years (year end numbers):
2012 = 10x Boeing 737-300 and 58x Boeng 737-800
2013 = 9x Boeing 737-300, 68x Boeng 737-800 and 3x Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
2014 = 5x Boeing 737-300, 79x Boeng 737-800 and 7x Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
The lease of a number B733 has been extended since they can't get enough B738 fast enough from Boeing.
The recent news about SAS being in really deep **** can lead to a total turn around to the above mentioned fleet plan. I guess there is a Norwegian Air Shuttle manual on the shelf named "In case SAS goes bankrupt", and we may see Norwegian trying to hoover the B737 market.
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Originally Posted by Seljuk22
Are these 'real' bases at AGP and LPA with based a/c and crew or just a night stop doing some w-pattern?
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It will be easiest to point out aircraft without Sky Interior now
LN-DY_ - LN-DYA, LN-DYB, LN-DYC, LN-DYD and LN-DYE (LN-DYF was the first aircraft with Sky Interior in the Norwegian fleet)
LN-NO_ - all except LN-NOY and LN-NOZ
LN-DY_ - LN-DYA, LN-DYB, LN-DYC, LN-DYD and LN-DYE (LN-DYF was the first aircraft with Sky Interior in the Norwegian fleet)
LN-NO_ - all except LN-NOY and LN-NOZ