OXFORD/KIDLINGTON

[PhiltheReaper]

Bit of a shock that my posts were deleted! Can it be true that a post criticising the lack of advertising is seen as an advert in itself?

I rather feel there's a bit of a witch hunt going on here. However, I shall but out of Mod decisions. It is usually the safest option!

All I would ask the Mods to clarify is:

If we are not allowed to use this thread to discuss the biggest news topic at Oxford Kidlington at the moment. What exactly is this thread / forum for?

Regards,

[Phileas Fogg]

Guys,

There has been a member, location EDI, that totally busted pPrune's rules and not only commercially advertised but posted links to Fokker booking engine(s) etc.

That was a number of weeks back, as services were about to commence that member returned posting more, clearly, commercial info and a pic of a Fokker ... He wasn't so clever though, he referred to the Fokker as operating "our services" thus, clearly, directly or indirectly a certain Fokker operator are paying his wages.

Phil, don't worry, a post of mine became deleted also and I certainly wasn't commercially advertising, as pPrune suggest it the (paid for) commercial advertising that pays for us to sit here for free chatting etc. and we all need to play by the same rules.

[PPRuNe Pop]

PF is on the button. Links are not acceptable when they point directly at the operator and more especially when they advertise an operator.

Just don't get involved in what YOU personally think is going to happen without the facts to back it up. Choose your words carefully and all will be well.

Carry on much as you have been but culling WILL occur if anyone steps over the boundaries of PPRuNe's rules, and please note that we not obliged to give reasons for any actions we take.


Enjoy.

AA&R mods

[PhiltheReaper]

That's actually far enough then in my mind. Thanks for the clarity from both of you!

Phil

[onyxcrowle]

Moving on from the discussions about the newest route. Are there any others in the pipeline.
Is Oxford likely to be the next Southend?. Maybe Easyjet might like to start?

[Pain in the R's]

There is not a hope in hell that will happen.

[PhiltheReaper]

There was a murmur in the news a few weeks ago that a second scheduled company wanted to operate out of Oxford and it was due to be announced last week, although clearly that's either been delayed, or was mistaken media hype..

As for people like easyJet, I see that as a bit unlikely for the foreseeable! Oxford has an award winning business terminal yes.. but a terminal with capacity for larger airline operations (forget the rest of the infrastructure such as parking) it does not!

I think before any one of the "major" airlines considered Oxford it would need a serious round of investment and probably a direct link to London too.

Phil

[Phileas Fogg]

Phil,

Just a hunch but I'm reckoning the runway length might impede upon any "big boy" operations in/out of Kidlington!

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by PhiltheReaper

I think before any one of the "major" airlines considered Oxford it would need a serious round of investment and probably a direct link to London too.

It would need a runway long enough for them to land on. That's a pretty definitive showstopper before even considering other investment, surface links etc.

[putneyuk]

Belfast Jersey and Guernsey

A local Oxfordshire travel company is advertising flights to Belfast from Oxford daily and twice daily certain days on a Links Air Jetstream starting May 13th. Also offering Jersey from the same date with a daily flight and Guernsey twice weekly all on the Jetstream.

[BHD2BFS]

I think that is citywing as they flew to Belfast last summer and I believe city wing uses linksair aircraft

[Yak97]

OXF-GCI

Wonder if they have put an application in yet for traffic rights? Doesn't seem enought time, if they are starting services in May? Nothing published by CAA (OF 2)

[PhiltheReaper]

As per runway length, with the 1500 or so licensed they might not be able to use fully laden 737's, but the more regional sized aircraft operated by the likes of Flybe would presumable be of little problem?

I imagine though that the current show stopper would be the fact that the apron is way waaaay too small to handle much more scheduled stuff than it already does. A significant extension would have to be completed before a (much needed as you guys rightly say) runways extension would be worth the cash?

Also, I don't know what you guys think, but the airspace around Oxford seems pretty congested, would this have much of an effect on their plans for expansion? E.g. with the Brize Norton MATS intersecting the Runway 01 extended runway, surely some major airspace re-arrangement would be necissary to make Oxford a really busy jet-traffic runway?

Also, I wonder what effect all the local drop zones would have on Airline safety cases...

[LTNman]

Runway is only 30m wide

[tws123]

Citywing

According to the Citywing booking engine there are 6 flights on sale from Oxford to the Isle of Man between April and June?

[davidjohnson6]

tws - the Isle of Man TT might have something to do with these seasonal flights

[IOMspotter]

citywing are running flights to LBA and OXF just for the TT period. The OXF IOM flights often connected on to BHD.

[onyxcrowle]

Lba - Oxf could well become populat. Two University cities Leeds is upcoming in many ways and might just be a good route .

[davidjohnson6]

onycrowle - Leeds-Oxford takes about 3h30 by train and, allowing for a change in Birmingham, trains go every half hour.

I would imagine a Bristol-Leeds route has higher demand than Oxford-Leeds but Eastern fly Bristol-Leeds only 8x per week (less than double daily on weekdays) with rather small aircraft - is there really enough of an air market for Oxford-Leeds ?

[No RYR for me]

Any updates on the Load Factor (and yield if available G-JNHP ) Just read that FLYbe / Logain pulled the Den Helder/Norwich flight after two weeks because they only flew an average of 6 punters...