OXFORD/KIDLINGTON
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Hey...don't appologise Cyrano....I accept largely what you are saying.....
Phileas, I was pontificating,were this to be an Easten Airways route instead of a charter, (in very broad terms) the sorts of costs and revenues the airline would face.
The load factor bit ?....well ...To me, Eastern are a niche player...quietly keeping out of the way of the big boys and charging high fares......hence they only have to fill their planes half full.
Phileas, I was pontificating,were this to be an Easten Airways route instead of a charter, (in very broad terms) the sorts of costs and revenues the airline would face.
The load factor bit ?....well ...To me, Eastern are a niche player...quietly keeping out of the way of the big boys and charging high fares......hence they only have to fill their planes half full.
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Runway Extension
In a press release issued today the 237 metre extension of London Oxford's runway has been approved by the CAA. According to Business Development Manager James Dillon-Godfrey the airport is looking at Transatlantic charters and I quote ''also looking at the furthest parts of the European airline market''. I kid you not.
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Three things spring to mind re Oxford...
1) The are a lot of well healed folk in the area
2) Quite a lot of foreign students who presumably travel to and from home now and again.
3) A high frequency - and I mean high frequency - express coach service from Oxford to Heathrow and Gatwick. There are two firms operating services.
There must be a good market for air travel in the area.
1) The are a lot of well healed folk in the area
2) Quite a lot of foreign students who presumably travel to and from home now and again.
3) A high frequency - and I mean high frequency - express coach service from Oxford to Heathrow and Gatwick. There are two firms operating services.
There must be a good market for air travel in the area.
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ah yeh the m40 has always got a wide selection of buses from heathrow and gatwick plying the route day and night - very very popular.
I think the only thing holding oxford is the fact that the terminal can only 100 pax tops at any one time according to something i read - so not sure how they can attract anything more than an eastern or flybe type operation
Wonder why no-one has ever operated plymouth-oxford-edinburgh for eg or another route dropping in there?
I think the only thing holding oxford is the fact that the terminal can only 100 pax tops at any one time according to something i read - so not sure how they can attract anything more than an eastern or flybe type operation
Wonder why no-one has ever operated plymouth-oxford-edinburgh for eg or another route dropping in there?
Whilst I am skeptical about the prospects for many of the UK's marginal airports, I believe Oxford could carve out a niche for itself due to its location. Although Heathrow is only 40 miles away, it is a congested 40 miles by road and there are no direct trains. Luton is about the same distance, but the roads are very poor. Birmingham is accessible via the M40 but is 66 miles away and has expensive parking. Southampton is no closer, nor is Bristol.
Oxford would be the closest airport for quite a large population, and in a very affluent part of the country. There are lots of high-tech companies in the local area, especially in the medical and pharmaceutical sectors.
If parking remained reasonably priced, and the airport stayed uncongested, I could see connecting flights to a European hub working, as well as perhaps Edinburgh.
Oxford would be the closest airport for quite a large population, and in a very affluent part of the country. There are lots of high-tech companies in the local area, especially in the medical and pharmaceutical sectors.
If parking remained reasonably priced, and the airport stayed uncongested, I could see connecting flights to a European hub working, as well as perhaps Edinburgh.
Although Heathrow is only 40 miles away, it is a congested 40 miles by road and there are no direct trains.
I would have thought radar would have taken priority over a runway extension. Still good news though.
Editted to add: They've got to sort out access to the terminal as well - its like driving on to an industrial estate.
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Oxford to install new Radar System ready for the Olympics : UK Airport News Stories
Oxford to get radar !!
Oxford to get radar !!
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The primary and secondary (Mode-S, MSSR) surveillance radar system will enable more efficient transits through local airspace as well as increase the throughput of IFR flight activity.
The primary and secondary (Mode-S, MSSR) surveillance radar system will enable more efficient transits through local airspace as well as increase the throughput of IFR flight activity.
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Wasn't PMI initially supposed to operate all summer long?
Flights from Oxford to Palma | Oxford Airport Travel
To complement the Jersey service, it was decided to introduce a new short series flight to Mallorca running on 4 Saturdays in September - 3rd, 10th, 17th and 24th
But one can't book nor even get a price so they clearly haven't confirmed these September aircraft yet:
If you would like to receive some more information about our Mallorca programme for September flying from Oxford, then please complete the REGISTER YOUR INTEREST form and we will let you have confirmed prices as soon as these are available
Now it gets really funny ..... flights from Oxford to New York!
In the coming months, it is planned that more and more flights will start operating. These will include a range of scheduled services to a range of UK and European cities, along with some one-off charters, for example, Christmas Shopping in New York
Flights from Oxford to Palma | Oxford Airport Travel
To complement the Jersey service, it was decided to introduce a new short series flight to Mallorca running on 4 Saturdays in September - 3rd, 10th, 17th and 24th
But one can't book nor even get a price so they clearly haven't confirmed these September aircraft yet:
If you would like to receive some more information about our Mallorca programme for September flying from Oxford, then please complete the REGISTER YOUR INTEREST form and we will let you have confirmed prices as soon as these are available
Now it gets really funny ..... flights from Oxford to New York!
In the coming months, it is planned that more and more flights will start operating. These will include a range of scheduled services to a range of UK and European cities, along with some one-off charters, for example, Christmas Shopping in New York
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Some news on Oxford
Flights to New York now up. They involve Cityjet from Oxford - Dublin using
(I don't think that even BAe had the audacity to market them as 'super-efficient' - four thirsty jets which are quite far from being even 'efficient'.)
Then onwards to New York with Aer Lingus on their 'award-winning service'. And for all the tightly packed text, the price isn't even on there. Turns out that it is £795 for flights only or £999 including 4 nights hotel stay. The latter doesn't seem quite such a bad deal.
Don't get me wrong - I'm very pro-Oxford in terms of expansion. But setting their sights on New York at the prices which they are charging are perhaps setting them a bit high. What about regional services? There has to be potential for scheduled services to some European and domestic destinations on a more regular basis; my best guesses are Jersey (more regular services needed, nothing from LHR), Guernsey (again nothing from Heathrow), a Scottish city (perhaps) and then some European destinations. It would require a decent survey to see where people in Oxford want to fly.
Flights to New York now up. They involve Cityjet from Oxford - Dublin using
their super-efficient Avro RJ-85 jet
Then onwards to New York with Aer Lingus on their 'award-winning service'. And for all the tightly packed text, the price isn't even on there. Turns out that it is £795 for flights only or £999 including 4 nights hotel stay. The latter doesn't seem quite such a bad deal.
Don't get me wrong - I'm very pro-Oxford in terms of expansion. But setting their sights on New York at the prices which they are charging are perhaps setting them a bit high. What about regional services? There has to be potential for scheduled services to some European and domestic destinations on a more regular basis; my best guesses are Jersey (more regular services needed, nothing from LHR), Guernsey (again nothing from Heathrow), a Scottish city (perhaps) and then some European destinations. It would require a decent survey to see where people in Oxford want to fly.
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Economic environment hasn't been too conducive towards regionals diving into new territories and airports recently. However tide ought to change soon as OXF has just installed a £4m primary and secondary radar which was one key barrier to the airlines taking the airport seriously to date. Something like £25 has been spent in the last few years modernising everything from the runway, AGL, runway, fire tenders, ILS, new terminal and now the radar - all focused on the business aviation sector to date, but now ready for the commercial side and of course the Olympics opportunities next year.
Richest part of the country, highest economic growth, no competition for an hour's drive in any direction, 5m people in that catchment, an hour down the M40 to west London and the 3rd most visited city in England outside of London - over 10 million international visitors a year. Ticks quite a few boxes - then next year there's a new rail station opening in south Kidlington - under an hour to Marylebone.
Just takes some time and quite a lot of cash!
There's EMB-190s (private jet version) coming in from time to time and with 1592m, pretty much anything that uses LCY can get in and out of OXF
Usual business-oriented near-Europe destinations obvious including Edinburgh, but also islands, niche leisure destinations where the second-home set go and hang out and the occassional one off charters like the Dublin-New York one launched today, ski flights to shorter runways etc.
Lets watch what happens!
Richest part of the country, highest economic growth, no competition for an hour's drive in any direction, 5m people in that catchment, an hour down the M40 to west London and the 3rd most visited city in England outside of London - over 10 million international visitors a year. Ticks quite a few boxes - then next year there's a new rail station opening in south Kidlington - under an hour to Marylebone.
Just takes some time and quite a lot of cash!
There's EMB-190s (private jet version) coming in from time to time and with 1592m, pretty much anything that uses LCY can get in and out of OXF
Usual business-oriented near-Europe destinations obvious including Edinburgh, but also islands, niche leisure destinations where the second-home set go and hang out and the occassional one off charters like the Dublin-New York one launched today, ski flights to shorter runways etc.
Lets watch what happens!
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Something like £25 has been spent in the last few years modernising everything from the runway, AGL, runway, fire tenders, ILS, new terminal and now the radar
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the dublin flight could be successful if the price is right, but i cant see new york ever happen, the same thing happened with the palma flights, they never took of either, if the want to start commercial flights they need to get a proper passenger terminal built
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the dublin flight could be successful if the price is right, but i cant see new york ever happen, the same thing happened with the palma flights, they never took of either, if the want to start commercial flights they need to get a proper passenger terminal built
There is a proper terminal - a very nice and new FBO VIP facility. I'm sure it would be expanded if scheduled flights happen and loadings dictate a bigger facility but at the moment there are better/other things to spend money on!
