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Best bets could be American Airlines (One World) which might attract more business traffic or Norwegian or maybe there just isn't the required level of traffic required. United had some very poor loads out of holiday periods.
To be a business friendly "global connectivity" service it would need to be one of the big American network operators to allow onward connections.
If you go with the likes of WOW etc what have they got offer over DUB, AMS, etc so you've got to ask whether they grow the market or just dilute your existing hubs.
Given the mention of Boston in this article, they probably have been talking to Norwegian (or thinking really long term JetBlue?)
John Irving, business development director, says transatlantic services are "not off the table" (From The Northern Echo)
Leaving aside NYC, some other interesting stuff in here.
If you go with the likes of WOW etc what have they got offer over DUB, AMS, etc so you've got to ask whether they grow the market or just dilute your existing hubs.
Given the mention of Boston in this article, they probably have been talking to Norwegian (or thinking really long term JetBlue?)
John Irving, business development director, says transatlantic services are "not off the table" (From The Northern Echo)
Leaving aside NYC, some other interesting stuff in here.
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Probably mentioned before, clearing US customs at Shannon can make for a quicker journey, obviously a good flight connection is required.
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With hearing Ryanair have announced their Winter 17/18 flights, I thought I'd take a quick look. No change with the existing routes through March '18, all schedules reverting to the same winter schedule as W16/17
Polish routes look as if they're staying which is positive, good lead in time as well with over 12 months to book some.
Interestingly though, Mallorca, Girona, Madrid and Faro are not available after October. I would assume that at least Faro would stay on, 2/3 weekly in the Winter (in fact I would have thought they would all go year round, possibly excluding Mallorca). Would this, and the lack of announcement from either Ryanair or NCL, suggest that perhaps things are not quite final yet and there might be more to come?
Also just seen that Ryanair are increasing their presence at Malpensa. 2/3 weekly flights NCL-MXP with FR would be a good "meet in the middle" point over EZY to MXP or FR to BGO in my opinion.
I was also thinking, anyone think we might get Iceland this winter from Thomson?
Polish routes look as if they're staying which is positive, good lead in time as well with over 12 months to book some.
Interestingly though, Mallorca, Girona, Madrid and Faro are not available after October. I would assume that at least Faro would stay on, 2/3 weekly in the Winter (in fact I would have thought they would all go year round, possibly excluding Mallorca). Would this, and the lack of announcement from either Ryanair or NCL, suggest that perhaps things are not quite final yet and there might be more to come?
Also just seen that Ryanair are increasing their presence at Malpensa. 2/3 weekly flights NCL-MXP with FR would be a good "meet in the middle" point over EZY to MXP or FR to BGO in my opinion.
I was also thinking, anyone think we might get Iceland this winter from Thomson?
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Ryanair have only put what was on sale last year on sale for next winter.
Don't worry they will announce what new routes will carry on through the winter when they release Newcastle flights 2017/18
Yes correct I'm expecting all on sale expect PMI also.
Expect a few increases also as they build up Newcastle.
Don't worry they will announce what new routes will carry on through the winter when they release Newcastle flights 2017/18
Yes correct I'm expecting all on sale expect PMI also.
Expect a few increases also as they build up Newcastle.
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I really hope we get growth...
My most optimistic prediction - presuming FR are happy with Gdansk, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Madrid... Is:
- Madrid goes year round, x2 weekly winter, x3 weekly S18
- Faro kept on x3 weekly through winter, then up to 5 weekly S18 (x4 S17 except August at x5)
- Alicante, Malaga, Lanzarote and Tenerife, no change, including S18
- Girona, remain x2 weekly W17/18, x3 weekly S18
- Polish routes stay at x2 weekly through to W18 when there *may* be a cull of at least 1, unless summer shows improvement, which it should
- Mallorca ends October '17, comes back daily in March '18, possibly x2 weekly winter '18
A handful, or all of: Budapest, Hamburg, Riga, Lisbon, Milan (hopefully MXP), Valencia or Seville, maybe Chania or Malta over the next 2 years. That would be nice.
Ibiza, Murcia, Fuerteventura, Corfu, Paphos I could also see them considering
Personally, I hope Stansted, Athens, Thessaloniki, Luxembourg, Marrakech and Catania are being looked at but I doubt it.
Realistically on the new routes front though I think Budapest and Milan will come online within the next 12 months... And I will be happy, and I think they will do well AND I think easyjet will be a little bit pee'd off. But unfortunately they will still continue not to respond and continue to lose market share until it looks favourable for them to drop NCL, blame it on brexit, Ryanair and Jet2...
My most optimistic prediction - presuming FR are happy with Gdansk, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Madrid... Is:
- Madrid goes year round, x2 weekly winter, x3 weekly S18
- Faro kept on x3 weekly through winter, then up to 5 weekly S18 (x4 S17 except August at x5)
- Alicante, Malaga, Lanzarote and Tenerife, no change, including S18
- Girona, remain x2 weekly W17/18, x3 weekly S18
- Polish routes stay at x2 weekly through to W18 when there *may* be a cull of at least 1, unless summer shows improvement, which it should
- Mallorca ends October '17, comes back daily in March '18, possibly x2 weekly winter '18
A handful, or all of: Budapest, Hamburg, Riga, Lisbon, Milan (hopefully MXP), Valencia or Seville, maybe Chania or Malta over the next 2 years. That would be nice.
Ibiza, Murcia, Fuerteventura, Corfu, Paphos I could also see them considering
Personally, I hope Stansted, Athens, Thessaloniki, Luxembourg, Marrakech and Catania are being looked at but I doubt it.
Realistically on the new routes front though I think Budapest and Milan will come online within the next 12 months... And I will be happy, and I think they will do well AND I think easyjet will be a little bit pee'd off. But unfortunately they will still continue not to respond and continue to lose market share until it looks favourable for them to drop NCL, blame it on brexit, Ryanair and Jet2...
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A very detailed prediction there, EK. I can see Milan (MXP) happening. Did Jet2 not start Budapest in the last couple of years or so, or did I imagine that? Places like Budapest are cyclical - they burn themselves out as soon as everyone in the North East who wants to go there has gone there. Riga and possibly Lisbon would probably be the same. Luxembourg is a really nice country, but I'd be amazed if anyone could make that work from NCL. And as I've said a few times on here, inbound tourism isn't big enough to even enter into the equation when we're talking about international routes.
Just one question, EK, and no disrespect is meant by this, but why do you think Ryanair to Malta would be nice? That would, imho ,put paid to Easyjet on that route.
Just one question, EK, and no disrespect is meant by this, but why do you think Ryanair to Malta would be nice? That would, imho ,put paid to Easyjet on that route.
