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Old 16th Jan 2017, 19:30
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Freight; Unfortunately the airport is covered by Article 1(4) of Council Directive 96/67/EC which means ground handling has to be done by agents. So around 15 years ago the airport had to sell/transfer all the freight handling equipment to the then two handling agents. The most important piece of equipment was the high scissor lift was then sold on! So now unless the handling agents 'want' the business it goes to the likes of DSA, who are not big enough to be covered by the above directive and own our old high scissor lift I believe??
I guess when we leave the EU we could go back to the old way of ground handling??
GA?? Too busy?? Well when I moved to DXB we had a flying club with two twins and six singles and around 750 movements per day! Yes two runways but...... They only moved out when movements went through the 1000 per day!!
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 19:39
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I guess when we leave the EU we could go back to the old way of ground handling??
I would imagine revising the rules for ground handling at airports will be well down the list of priorities...

GA comments were tongue in cheek, but the North is well behind the rest of the country generally, not just a Newcastle issue - could be a bit chicken and egg (i.e. lack of facilities leading to a lack of activity) but the state of the economy probably has more of an impact.
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 21:23
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Regarding cargo, DHL which supplied the likes of Emirates and BA with all the businesses cargo on a nightly basis had to shut shop last year and moved all there ops down to Leeds way, that was a real blow to the amount we now handle.
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 12:54
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so what cargo would be for export? Barbour jackets I guess

the cash already goes to the Gulf in a dedicated service.....................
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 13:46
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Harry,it's been covered before..however there is a lot more "specialised" freight than to the Gulf.
It all goes from Doncaster or Stansted.
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 22:02
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There is a lot of component parts cargo arrives in NCL to feed the Nissan plant in Washington. A lot of it in specially chartered freighters.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 16:09
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 18:43
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Won't happen. As much as I'd like to see it happen, it won't. Realistically United are the only one who'd ever try it, Newcastle is far down the plucking list. Belfast also lost a service and their EWR service did much better than NCL's service. Maybe Norwegian, but we don't know how their venture will turn out.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 18:55
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Belfast also lost a service and their EWR service did much better than NCL's service
Did it? How do you know?
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 19:46
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Well BFS to EWR lasted a lot longer than NCL to EWR so AerRyan may have a point.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 19:49
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He may have a point but his post reads as fact, not opinion, so just seeking clarification (and NCL didn't benefit from tax breaks ).
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 19:49
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As well as the season being longer and loads being higher. Yield is alot, but it's pretty obvious here that BFS-EWR was a much superior route.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 20:14
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...despite needing government support?
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 20:18
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It didn't get any government support. Still did much better than NCL.

Does this bother you? Shall I tell you a lie?
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 20:19
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Yes, I fail to see how a publically bankrolled route could be described as 'superior' to one operating at commercial risk. As soon as the free money dried up, so did the BFS route.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 20:25
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It didn't get any government support.
How much APD did the pax pay? If government reducing taxation isn't support, I don't know what is.

Still did much better than NCL.
There you go again. In your opinion you think it did but I'd be very surprised if anybody outside United knows the full picture.

Don't mind people expressing opinions, but lets not dress them up as fact.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 21:02
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So am I making up that the season was significantly longer, the loads were significantly higher and the route ran for significantly longer?
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 21:43
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Didn't BFS need to pay £10m to keep the route for the next 2 years and United still pulled out ???
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 21:44
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No, Stormont couldn't pay so they pulled out.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 21:45
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BFS did have better loads in 90% most days and needed 10m funding still.

If that's the case then NCL would need to fund double that if not more.
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