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Is the airport actively looking for a replacement for the United service? Norwegian might be interested given they're planning start transatlantic flights to regional airports - EDI/BFS/GLA etc. Can't see American or Delta flying to Newcastle.
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In all honesty I hope Norwegian don't. I'd much rather see someone like Jetblue, with 'Mint' service, IFE in economy, connecting flights and codeshares... A hybrid airline, offering affordable transatlantic flights (not bottom of the barrel, market trashing £60 flights)
Fingers crossed they do get the A321LR and fingers even more crossed that they like the look of what Newcastle has to offer.
By virtue of being a low cost/hybrid airline, business traffic would be limited, so 3/4 weekly flights shouldn't be unattainable
Fingers crossed they do get the A321LR and fingers even more crossed that they like the look of what Newcastle has to offer.
By virtue of being a low cost/hybrid airline, business traffic would be limited, so 3/4 weekly flights shouldn't be unattainable
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I think recent events have shown that New York isn't the be all and end all - lets move on.
Other opportunities may be Westjet into Canadian hubs to link into their US connections.
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I thought it was "if at first you don't succeed, try try try again" not "give up and forget you ever thought it might work"
United did well... If the industry nowadays (and especially with the legacies across the pond) wasn't so numbers driven, wanting profits yesterday and they'd given it 2017, maybe even 2018 with an extended schedule... I'm sure it would have grown, and maybe been a success like Emirates
United did well... If the industry nowadays (and especially with the legacies across the pond) wasn't so numbers driven, wanting profits yesterday and they'd given it 2017, maybe even 2018 with an extended schedule... I'm sure it would have grown, and maybe been a success like Emirates
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I can't see JetBlue operating transatlantic services, and even if they did, NCL would be at the bottom of their list. But honestly I'm surprised that NCL doesn't yet have an Iceland connection. WOW fly to 3 UK destinations, and Icelandair fly to 7 - Belfast City and Bristol have even managed to secure flights so NCL is lagging behind.
You make a very good point EK77WNCL; Emirates has been a huge success story for the airport - who would have thought that a regional airport could support daily 773 flights to Dubai. If United had let the EWR route mature instead of setting high profit targets then I think it would have been a success as well.
You make a very good point EK77WNCL; Emirates has been a huge success story for the airport - who would have thought that a regional airport could support daily 773 flights to Dubai. If United had let the EWR route mature instead of setting high profit targets then I think it would have been a success as well.
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"if at first you don't succeed, try try try again"?
United did well...
Not United, and I think they're the ones who really know.
Not American, who planned flights and then pulled out.
Not the long list of airlines not rushing into the hole left by United
Also, can you really compare the business models of airlines from the USA and EK - they operate in different worlds.
NCL lagging behind? It isn't comparable to BRS, and BHD scrapes in (just) as a DHC8D destination (NCL doesn't), so don't compare apples and oranges again.
NYC demanded a disproportionate amount of effort - any coincidence that RYR turn up in numbers after NYC?
How about "Don't chuck good money after bad"?
Says who?
Not United, and I think they're the ones who really know.
Not American, who planned flights and then pulled out.
Not the long list of airlines not rushing into the hole left by United
Also, can you really compare the business models of airlines from the USA and EK - they operate in different worlds.
NCL lagging behind? It isn't comparable to BRS, and BHD scrapes in (just) as a DHC8D destination (NCL doesn't), so don't compare apples and oranges again.
NYC demanded a disproportionate amount of effort - any coincidence that RYR turn up in numbers after NYC?
Says who?
Not United, and I think they're the ones who really know.
Not American, who planned flights and then pulled out.
Not the long list of airlines not rushing into the hole left by United
Also, can you really compare the business models of airlines from the USA and EK - they operate in different worlds.
NCL lagging behind? It isn't comparable to BRS, and BHD scrapes in (just) as a DHC8D destination (NCL doesn't), so don't compare apples and oranges again.
NYC demanded a disproportionate amount of effort - any coincidence that RYR turn up in numbers after NYC?
In reality it isn't that big a market - 300m or so people, a security system that makes hubbing at a US airport to South American or Canadian destinations horrendous at best; impractical at worst.
If I were NCL management, which I'm glad I'm not, I'd be looking to ensure that Icelandair were in place 2/3 times weekly connecting with their KEF heb, and likewise Aer Lingus at Dublin - then look to Iberia / Iberia Express to open service to Madrid, to connect with their comprehensive South American network.
Emirates are already in place, don't go after a second ME carrier to dilute Emirates business, and instead look for multi daily, or at least business friendly services to link NCL to hubs in FRA and / or MUC.
Then concentrate on the bucket and spade business.
If I were NCL management, which I'm glad I'm not, I'd be looking to ensure that Icelandair were in place 2/3 times weekly connecting with their KEF heb, and likewise Aer Lingus at Dublin - then look to Iberia / Iberia Express to open service to Madrid, to connect with their comprehensive South American network.
RYR are starting to MAD.
No, but it reduces the likelihood of an Iberia/Iberia Express link so like DUB, might not be the best use oF NCL management time.
FRA has been actively pursued for many years, but do we need another hub that far east - many Star Alliance frequent flyers in the NE?
FRA has been actively pursued for many years, but do we need another hub that far east - many Star Alliance frequent flyers in the NE?
BHX managed it, with FR and Norwegian already ensconced - and if you're chasing a more diverse product (business and leisure, connecting as well as point to point) I'd never say never.
But it ain't going to happen if the marketing team's resources are being directed to the sacred cow of direct services to USA!
But it ain't going to happen if the marketing team's resources are being directed to the sacred cow of direct services to USA!
With respect, BHX has access to a far bigger market than NCL has in the North East - two occupants on MAD-NCL is unlikely, certainly at a frequency that would be business friendly.
