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It doesn't help that Flybe's Exeter service goes (midweek) at the same time. EZY's schedule is geared entirely for Stag and Hen parties coming up to Newcastle for the weekend. Nothing wrong with that but for me it renders the service unusable.
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It's not as terrible as it could be during the summer, as yet I've managed by using the early Saturday flights, but for the winter it's just going to be a pain
How big is the stag/hen market for people coming from the SW to NE?
I just can't get my head around what happened to the days of x2 daily Sun-Fri, x1 daily Sat, with extra frequencies thrown in as necessary dependent on demand
I mean, take this winter, there's going to be x3 daily on Friday and Sunday, all in the afternoon, and no Saturday flight
How big is the stag/hen market for people coming from the SW to NE?
I just can't get my head around what happened to the days of x2 daily Sun-Fri, x1 daily Sat, with extra frequencies thrown in as necessary dependent on demand
I mean, take this winter, there's going to be x3 daily on Friday and Sunday, all in the afternoon, and no Saturday flight
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I notice DUB goes to 1 daily on a Saturday on both Aer Lingus and Ryanair. Will be using the morning SAT Aer Lingus flight too, but does demand really fall so short on a Saturday?
Also, interestingly enough, on my last trip to Newcastle, there was a Hen Party on my return flight to Dublin, having their hen IN Dublin!
Also, interestingly enough, on my last trip to Newcastle, there was a Hen Party on my return flight to Dublin, having their hen IN Dublin!
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Yeah I wonder that as well... I can't be the only person who, for the most part, travels on a weekend?
Maybe it's just lower yield passengers on Saturdays and they don't deem it worth operating the flight.
If Aer Lingus has less transatlantic flights on Saturdays I can understand why... Ryanair though, is mostly leisure, so I'd have thought there'd be demand
Without even looking yet, I'll put money that they both leave roughly, if not exactly the same time?
Maybe it's just lower yield passengers on Saturdays and they don't deem it worth operating the flight.
If Aer Lingus has less transatlantic flights on Saturdays I can understand why... Ryanair though, is mostly leisure, so I'd have thought there'd be demand
Without even looking yet, I'll put money that they both leave roughly, if not exactly the same time?
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I notice DUB goes to 1 daily on a Saturday on both Aer Lingus and Ryanair. Will be using the morning SAT Aer Lingus flight too, but does demand really fall so short on a Saturday?
Also, interestingly enough, on my last trip to Newcastle, there was a Hen Party on my return flight to Dublin, having their hen IN Dublin!
Also, interestingly enough, on my last trip to Newcastle, there was a Hen Party on my return flight to Dublin, having their hen IN Dublin!
Both weekends flights now depart DUB at 08.15 and 08.30 (same lather LBA as well) and not the usual 06.00-07.00 service. Could be many reasons for this and not just lack of demand.
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Without even looking yet, I'll put money that they both leave roughly, if not exactly the same time?
Without even looking yet, I'll put money that they both leave roughly, if not exactly the same time?
Basically, the theory goes that by separating the times of flights, say Easyjet operating in the morning and Ryanair in the afternoon, you are dividing the market. Instead of appealing to everyone, the Easyjet flights now only appeal to those who want to travel in the morning, and Ryanair only appeal to those wishing to travel in the afternoon.
But by grouping the flights together, time is no longer an issue. Everyone has to travel at that time regardless of whether they wanted to or not. Now you can target the whole market, and capture traffic based on brand or price.
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I think Chesty's post was a joke....
(as in 2 planes taking off side by side on the runway. Or maybe a tow rope)
(as in 2 planes taking off side by side on the runway. Or maybe a tow rope)
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Well let's have these again.
Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of humor. Here are some actual maintenance complaints submitted by pilots (marked with a P) and the solutions recorded (marked with an S) by maintenance engineers.
P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.
P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.
P: Something loose in cockpit.
S: Something tightened in cockpit.
P: Dead bugs on windshield.
S: Live bugs on back-order.
P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.
P: #2 Propeller seeping prop fluid
S: #2 Propeller seepage normal – #1 #3 and #4 propellers lack normal seepage
P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.
P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
S: That’s what they’re for
P: IFF inoperative.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.
P: Suspected crack in windshield.
S: Suspect you’re right.
P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.
P: Aircraft handles funny.
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.
P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics
P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.
And the best one for last.
P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.
S: Took hammer away from midget.
Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of humor. Here are some actual maintenance complaints submitted by pilots (marked with a P) and the solutions recorded (marked with an S) by maintenance engineers.
P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.
P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.
P: Something loose in cockpit.
S: Something tightened in cockpit.
P: Dead bugs on windshield.
S: Live bugs on back-order.
P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.
P: #2 Propeller seeping prop fluid
S: #2 Propeller seepage normal – #1 #3 and #4 propellers lack normal seepage
P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.
P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
S: That’s what they’re for
P: IFF inoperative.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.
P: Suspected crack in windshield.
S: Suspect you’re right.
P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.
P: Aircraft handles funny.
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.
P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics
P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.
And the best one for last.
P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.
S: Took hammer away from midget.
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They're good! Old, but goodun's
Also, does anyone have any info on what Flybe's previous base and routes were from NCL? For example, how many aircraft did we have at peak? And routes?
Belfast City? How many times a day did we have at most? Was Exeter previously more than x6 weekly (could have sworn it was 2 daily). I remember they dabbled in Aberdeen, was there anything else? Limoges... Did they fly anywhere else in France?
And another thing, Easyjet's Stansted service, what kind of traffic did it cater for? Obviously some will have been London bound passengers, but was there an equal proportion of people bound for elsewhere in the South East/Norfolk/Midlands? It interests me where 250/300,000 passengers have gone...
Also, does anyone have any info on what Flybe's previous base and routes were from NCL? For example, how many aircraft did we have at peak? And routes?
Belfast City? How many times a day did we have at most? Was Exeter previously more than x6 weekly (could have sworn it was 2 daily). I remember they dabbled in Aberdeen, was there anything else? Limoges... Did they fly anywhere else in France?
And another thing, Easyjet's Stansted service, what kind of traffic did it cater for? Obviously some will have been London bound passengers, but was there an equal proportion of people bound for elsewhere in the South East/Norfolk/Midlands? It interests me where 250/300,000 passengers have gone...
flybe to BHD was 5 daily before EZY launched BFS.
They had previously done IOM and replaced Gill on the AF CDG flights.
Exeter and Southampton were launched as daily in Oct 2004, SOU went twice daily the following summer and weekly JER added (JER went 4 weekly in 2006)
Weekly Limoges launched May 2007
Gatwick, Rennes, Aberdeen and Cardiff launched summer 2008
They had previously done IOM and replaced Gill on the AF CDG flights.
Exeter and Southampton were launched as daily in Oct 2004, SOU went twice daily the following summer and weekly JER added (JER went 4 weekly in 2006)
Weekly Limoges launched May 2007
Gatwick, Rennes, Aberdeen and Cardiff launched summer 2008
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It would be interesting to see if they have any plans to build themselves up again at NCL
I wonder if they could do Birmingham, I'm not surprised Eastern failed to be honest, with the fares they charged! But if Flybe can offer a faster and cheaper alternative to the train, then why not? 70 seats at £50-100 shouldn't be much more difficult than 20 seats at £300... Or does business not work like that?
I wonder if they could do Birmingham, I'm not surprised Eastern failed to be honest, with the fares they charged! But if Flybe can offer a faster and cheaper alternative to the train, then why not? 70 seats at £50-100 shouldn't be much more difficult than 20 seats at £300... Or does business not work like that?
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It would be interesting to see if they have any plans to build themselves up again at NCL
I wonder if they could do Birmingham, I'm not surprised Eastern failed to be honest, with the fares they charged! But if Flybe can offer a faster and cheaper alternative to the train, then why not? 70 seats at £50-100 shouldn't be much more difficult than 20 seats at £300... Or does business not work like that?
I wonder if they could do Birmingham, I'm not surprised Eastern failed to be honest, with the fares they charged! But if Flybe can offer a faster and cheaper alternative to the train, then why not? 70 seats at £50-100 shouldn't be much more difficult than 20 seats at £300... Or does business not work like that?
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1 hour at airport plus 1 hour ish flight = 2 hours. train is 3 - 3 1/2 hours plus 15 mins before it goes. so train takes more than twice as long. why would people feel safer on a train than on a plane? you are also guaranteed a seat on a plane.
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The train operates up to an hourly frequency with journeys taking as little as 2:50.
The train has multiple pickup points at Morpeth, Newcastle, Durham and Darlington and takes you're direct to the centre of Birmingham. In isolation the train likely has a larger catchment too.
You need to travel to the airport and park up. Travelling to and from one of the mentioned stations is quicker and easier for most.
You also have the benefit of turning up and departing on the next train (ticket type permitting) and XC trains allow you to text and book a seat ten mins prior to departure.
I'm surprised it lasted for so long.
The train has multiple pickup points at Morpeth, Newcastle, Durham and Darlington and takes you're direct to the centre of Birmingham. In isolation the train likely has a larger catchment too.
You need to travel to the airport and park up. Travelling to and from one of the mentioned stations is quicker and easier for most.
You also have the benefit of turning up and departing on the next train (ticket type permitting) and XC trains allow you to text and book a seat ten mins prior to departure.
I'm surprised it lasted for so long.
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The train operates up to an hourly frequency with journeys taking as little as 2:50.
The train has multiple pickup points at Morpeth, Newcastle, Durham and Darlington and takes you're direct to the centre of Birmingham. In isolation the train likely has a larger catchment too.
You need to travel to the airport and park up. Travelling to and from one of the mentioned stations is quicker and easier for most.
You also have the benefit of turning up and departing on the next train (ticket type permitting) and XC trains allow you to text and book a seat ten mins prior to departure.
I'm surprised it lasted for so long.
The train has multiple pickup points at Morpeth, Newcastle, Durham and Darlington and takes you're direct to the centre of Birmingham. In isolation the train likely has a larger catchment too.
You need to travel to the airport and park up. Travelling to and from one of the mentioned stations is quicker and easier for most.
You also have the benefit of turning up and departing on the next train (ticket type permitting) and XC trains allow you to text and book a seat ten mins prior to departure.
I'm surprised it lasted for so long.