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Old 8th Aug 2016, 14:55
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Belfast went summer only last year but has become year round again but a gap of around 6 weeks between end of Jan and early March
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Old 8th Aug 2016, 14:57
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Ncl could become 1st April to 15th Dec operation maybe??
Maybe daily during the July/Aug 5x weekly may, June and sept then 3 weekly the rest of it
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Old 8th Aug 2016, 17:33
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Or maybe daily july-august and no flights for the rest of the year. UA/Star don't seem to be able to break the grip that oneWorld/SkyTeam have from NCL over the Atlantic
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Old 8th Aug 2016, 17:42
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Cant see any if those haphazard chop and change timetables working, people need persistence and consistence. Short high season programs are not UA normal patterns. I fear its for the ditch. Not sure why OW/*A is any different at NCL than some other UK UA stations
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Old 8th Aug 2016, 18:06
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Key point is they may well have another destination lined up where another B757 can be used better all year round. Once that happens, it's game over. NCL needs to justify using that aeroplane against a load of other airports on the United network, or even new destinations. If your market is thrice weekly to New York, then you're in Thomas Cook or Jet2 territory.
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Old 8th Aug 2016, 18:47
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Problem I think with ncl is last year United went 2x daily at edi also delta came onto the route daily also at edi giving loads extra seats so close to ncl.
BHX got American as well on the New York.
A lot of extra seats for New York from uk regional.

However saying that United came back to ncl for this summer and also an extra day per week.

If United weren't making money and struggled last summer why would they come back this summer with an extra flight per week.
Both airport and United said they were happy with sales last year.

This year more passengers have been flying the route so this must be good.

Again I think we need to wait until the airport and United have these talks as I think we may get a surprise!!!! ( hope I'm right)
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Old 8th Aug 2016, 20:36
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Would of been so much easier if they just ditched the route last year than letting it run 6x weekly this year getting more PAX on the route for them to pull it
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Old 8th Aug 2016, 21:04
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Would of been so much easier if they just ditched the route last year
How'd you work that out? Don't understand your logic.
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Old 9th Aug 2016, 05:55
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
How'd you work that out? Don't understand your logic.
Last year was fairly poor could of been ditched then when lets face it do UA really have any intrest in being here for years to come ? Instead they have gave us a 2nd summer where loads have been better only to be sat here looking at it being ditched anyway. Im not sure about you but i would of rather it just went after 1 season just my opinion not a logic.
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Old 9th Aug 2016, 08:38
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Would a UA 757 staging through Ncl to maybe Frankfurt or Berlin work? Of course dropping the fare would help as well.
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Old 9th Aug 2016, 08:56
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Would a UA 757 staging through Ncl to maybe Frankfurt or Berlin work? Of course dropp

Simply put, NO!
Berlin and Frankfurt work well for STAR as direct connects. Why, in this day and age, would a passenger choose (say) FRA/NCL/EWR over FRA/EWR at the same cost - economically it would not be any better priced? Fact is, NCL has always been a thin route for UA, their local sales manager has already admitted so to the trade regarding revenue and load.
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Old 9th Aug 2016, 12:30
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x3 weekly EWR-NCL-BRS-EWR, x4 weekly EWR-BRS-NCL-EWR. DONE! Problems solved, might even support a 787 when the 757's go
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Old 9th Aug 2016, 14:09
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Originally Posted by EK77WNCL
x3 weekly EWR-NCL-BRS-EWR, x4 weekly EWR-BRS-NCL-EWR. DONE! Problems solved, might even support a 787 when the 757's go
Tongue firmly in cheek I assume!
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Old 9th Aug 2016, 19:51
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yeah break the airlines standard transatlantic 757 non double drop routing policy to accommodate NCL....
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Old 10th Aug 2016, 02:05
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Firmly ATNotts! Although it worked for Transat

Slightly less firmly in cheek though, IF this turns out to be true - and I'll be heartily disappointed if it is because I don't believe we've been given a fair run... AND to be fair to us, we have shown growth over the 2 seasons - I'd be straight on the phone to Dubai about DXB-NCL-JFK/EWR-NCL-DXB

It sounds stupid, and even I'm very sceptical about a 77W on NCL-NYC but it provides more cargo uplift, higher reliability, lower fares and there's more brand awareness and existing loyalty, as well as a similar number of connections at the other end (at JFK not EWR) and in a perfect universe it could even create scope for a couple of hundred Emirati/US visitors a year who just fancy a break somewhere different on their trip...

I'm going to wait though, without wanting to speak too soon, I don't think they're going to have pulled out just yet - I do have faith in them to give it a proper run
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Old 10th Aug 2016, 04:41
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I'd be straight on the phone to Dubai about DXB-NCL-JFK/EWR-NCL-DXB
And why would the Americans agree to this? and who provides the onwards connections?
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Thats just like SIN-MAN-IAH so why not

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CONFIRMED

United drops NCL. Statement on Website
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Old 10th Aug 2016, 08:42
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Where do you get the seat map info from?
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Old 10th Aug 2016, 08:54
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CONFIRMED

United drops NCL. Statement on Website
Story in the Shields Gazette.
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