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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 21:59
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Seriously this thread has got to be the most comical on PPRuNe, its embarrassing the amount of dreamers spouting tosh about "what would work" I am sure the airlines have done their maths and checked the demand and possible yields before basing aircraft.
Fully agree with that observation. Far too many wanabee airline execs.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 05:42
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Newcastle Airport chief?s big American Dream (From The Northern Echo)

Bit of a misleading headline, as no reference to new American services in the article
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 07:18
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Link gone what did it say ?

Something else about to happen which we don't know?
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 08:23
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Link is working..........mainly says that David Laws is using the United service to attract more operators to the airport.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 08:42
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Had to search for it

Very interesting wonder what the next big thing is he is chasing.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 09:33
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I think we're probably likely to see another rotation on an A330/77L
A330s are being retired and are mainly restricted to dead of night runs around Asia due to older hard product and dated premium cabins, and the B77Ls are very few in number with the small subfleet of B772s going soon. Poor analogy but EK have gone down the Ryanair route of having a pretty large smallest aircraft.

Hence getting to a twice daily B77W *may* be challenging and dependent on how much of a bloodbath we see at EDI with Qatar vs Etihad going after the same market as that would reach into NCL's catchment area.

Any overflow cargo can easily be trucked to GLA or BHX rather than have a less than full B77W sent to NCL.

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Old 24th Sep 2015, 09:48
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Think of the cargo we may need the second flight just to accommodate the cargo.

I hope that ncl aren't going after Qatar or Etihad to join ncl.
Wonder if they could get CX and the A350 in years to come

If EWR does good next summer I wonder if United may link up there other hubs with NCL like Edi?
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 09:56
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I reckon an A380 for Emirates' 10th Anniversary is very possible
I don't believe the apron's PCN will permit an A380 on it.

The runway's ok, but not the apron IIRC.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 12:11
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Originally Posted by HH6702
Think of the cargo we may need the second flight just to accommodate the cargo.

I hope that ncl aren't going after Qatar or Etihad to join ncl.
Wonder if they could get CX and the A350 in years to come

If EWR does good next summer I wonder if United may link up there other hubs with NCL like Edi?
Descending into cloud cuckoo land again me thinks!
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 12:21
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I remember, "You must be in cloud cuckoo land if you think we will ever get a direct flight to the USA, it just won't ever happen"
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 12:48
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Well said ash666

Some on here said never to EK 777 and for United !!!

Most on here didn't see vueling coming !

So anything could happen in the cloud cuckoo cuckoo land we live in!!

Keep going ncl airport management team
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 12:50
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I'm no big fan of most things NCL but at least the management dares to dream and live in, "cloud cuckoo land".
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 12:50
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apron loading

Haven't Newcastle had a couple of AN 124 cargo movements? Don't think the A380 would be a problem for the apron.
Not sure about wing tip clearances etc?
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 15:19
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I'm sure the 77W ACN is higher than the A380... 744 and A333 may also be higher but that could be made up.

Wingtip clearance would be a big problem, probably the only really big problem... But nothing a follow me car and a sh*tload of wing walkers couldn't fix :P
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 17:04
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I think many need to remember that this isn't the spotters request forum. We need sensible discussion regarding truly plausable options. the A380 isn't getting into NCL, there isn't the clearance nor the equipment.

Cathay aren't coming as the airport isn't marketing for the route nor would it even be on the mind of any Asian airline route planner. Lets also remember, our runway is too small for far East services.

Vueling wasn't pie in the sky. It was highly plausible, as was United due to the continual efforts of the Newcastle team.

Focus on TOM longhaul and Euro expansion, not silly hub routes which would damage the likes of BAW and KLM.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 17:56
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"Lets also remember, our runway is too small for far East services."

777s manage to get to Bangkok from AMS and CDG without any problems. A good hub for Australia/NZ/China/SE Asia and even India.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 18:15
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A 777 flying from NCL to BKK would need to make a stop, say at, hmmm, Dubai for example?
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 18:22
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Is NCL so much further away from BKK as AMS and CDG? Their 777s don't need to stop.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 19:26
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I think more realistic options would be Turkish or FlyPGS to Istanbul or Aegean to Athens, neither of which are served from NCL although Athens used to be a charter destination years ago.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 20:12
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Cant see anything happening with ATH anytime soon let alone from NCL.
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