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KLM do their own line engineering at most of their UK destinations.
Believe the UA pax were routed out on other airlines - according to the Chronicle
Believe the UA pax were routed out on other airlines - according to the Chronicle
Flight UA159 from Newcastle to New York had been due to carry 137 passengers
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I was on the EWR-NCL last night (Monday).
Turned up at check in to find they were overbooked and looking for volunteers to go via AMS in exchange for an $800 travel voucher, which I accepted.
I met some NCL pax on the AMS flight. It turns out they had been on the canceled flight on Sunday. Hydraulic failure 20 minutes out of EWR and return for emergency landing. (That was the second plane they'd been on after the first went tech)
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As it turns out, the AMS light went tech too after 5 hours sitting on the tarmac! Currently in the Ramada at Newark airport, trying again tonight!
There are rumours going around here about a maintenance strike or go slow at United.
Turned up at check in to find they were overbooked and looking for volunteers to go via AMS in exchange for an $800 travel voucher, which I accepted.
I met some NCL pax on the AMS flight. It turns out they had been on the canceled flight on Sunday. Hydraulic failure 20 minutes out of EWR and return for emergency landing. (That was the second plane they'd been on after the first went tech)
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As it turns out, the AMS light went tech too after 5 hours sitting on the tarmac! Currently in the Ramada at Newark airport, trying again tonight!
There are rumours going around here about a maintenance strike or go slow at United.
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May Provisional Stats
Heathrow +13%
Stansted 4454
Aberdeen -30%
Belfast City +8%
Belfast Int +11%
Birmingham +28%
Bristol -9%
Cardiff -6%
Exeter 3100
Jersey +4%
Southampton +10%
Brussels +19%
Copenhagen +3%
Paris CDG -7%
Dusseldorf +13%
Cork +2%
Dublin +14%
Amsterdam +14%
Stavanger -36%
Dubai +6%
Newark 1251 52.87% loads?
Sanford +8%
Cancun +48%
Overall 12 months rolling: 4.52m +1.6%
Stansted 4454
Aberdeen -30%
Belfast City +8%
Belfast Int +11%
Birmingham +28%
Bristol -9%
Cardiff -6%
Exeter 3100
Jersey +4%
Southampton +10%
Brussels +19%
Copenhagen +3%
Paris CDG -7%
Dusseldorf +13%
Cork +2%
Dublin +14%
Amsterdam +14%
Stavanger -36%
Dubai +6%
Newark 1251 52.87% loads?
Sanford +8%
Cancun +48%
Overall 12 months rolling: 4.52m +1.6%
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Logged the EK and UA data in my little black book of aviation Statistics for NCL, felt very good putting my first United data in with what is, essentially a very good load factor for only 7 flights and considering the prices they charge on some of them, most likely very healthy. Emirates minimum load factor was 52.05% (assumes 2 class operation all month... Seldom, if ever true)
If I'm correct in assuming that Flybe serves stansted x2 daily weekdays and x1 weekly on weekends, that's 52 flights, 104 movements. 4454/104 = 42.83 = 42 passengers per flight = 53.85% load factor. Perfectly adequate and with British Airways 13% increase this leaves less than a 2,000 passenger defecit on lost Gatwick pasengers, not too shabby after only 2 months. I still think a business friendly timed LCY route would be better suited to NCL's needs and would complement the STN service which I very much doubt caters for many London bound passengers.
Glad to see Cancun doing well... How did they get so much growth when the flights had high 90's load factors? Longer season, more flights this May? Good to see all our long haul routes doing well, may it continue and hopefully peak the interest of some other carriers. I'd like to see Cuba complement our current selection. Also some of the first increases in a long while on Belfast City, Cork and Birmingham. Brussels had some nice growth, CPH looking healthy, DUB still on the up, pleased to see DUS on it's way back up as well, will they re-time the flights and reinstate the second rotation? I remember pax numbers halved when they cancelled it. Amsterdam growing nicely although I expect there to be a downward trend for the next 12 months with the loss of Easyjet contributing a couple of thousand passengers each month.
The usuals, Bristol decrease (when are EZY going to get their act together with those God awful timings) Aberdeen and Stavanger decrease (oil, shame) and decreases across the board on the vast majority of leisure destinations... Why?!?! Was there a particularly good May last year? I did notice a lot of Jet2's routes didn't start until the last portion of may after 20th, is this later than usual have they had a later start this year? What did surprise me was the Paris decrease, hopefully a one off.
Even the extremely popular Greek islands declined! IIRC Kos was down 30% any growth was slow. Dubrovnik had large increase (170%) due to Thomson, Malta, Antalya, Larnaca, Enfidha and Zante were up a bit, thank you Jet2!
0.2% decrease on May 2014 which was a 6% increase on May 2013... Maybe we did have a good May, the persistent decreases on leisure confuse me greatly but at least the standalone routes like Jet2's and Thomson's city routes appear to be doing well, only routes with competition that aren't doing so well.
If I'm correct in assuming that Flybe serves stansted x2 daily weekdays and x1 weekly on weekends, that's 52 flights, 104 movements. 4454/104 = 42.83 = 42 passengers per flight = 53.85% load factor. Perfectly adequate and with British Airways 13% increase this leaves less than a 2,000 passenger defecit on lost Gatwick pasengers, not too shabby after only 2 months. I still think a business friendly timed LCY route would be better suited to NCL's needs and would complement the STN service which I very much doubt caters for many London bound passengers.
Glad to see Cancun doing well... How did they get so much growth when the flights had high 90's load factors? Longer season, more flights this May? Good to see all our long haul routes doing well, may it continue and hopefully peak the interest of some other carriers. I'd like to see Cuba complement our current selection. Also some of the first increases in a long while on Belfast City, Cork and Birmingham. Brussels had some nice growth, CPH looking healthy, DUB still on the up, pleased to see DUS on it's way back up as well, will they re-time the flights and reinstate the second rotation? I remember pax numbers halved when they cancelled it. Amsterdam growing nicely although I expect there to be a downward trend for the next 12 months with the loss of Easyjet contributing a couple of thousand passengers each month.
The usuals, Bristol decrease (when are EZY going to get their act together with those God awful timings) Aberdeen and Stavanger decrease (oil, shame) and decreases across the board on the vast majority of leisure destinations... Why?!?! Was there a particularly good May last year? I did notice a lot of Jet2's routes didn't start until the last portion of may after 20th, is this later than usual have they had a later start this year? What did surprise me was the Paris decrease, hopefully a one off.
Even the extremely popular Greek islands declined! IIRC Kos was down 30% any growth was slow. Dubrovnik had large increase (170%) due to Thomson, Malta, Antalya, Larnaca, Enfidha and Zante were up a bit, thank you Jet2!
0.2% decrease on May 2014 which was a 6% increase on May 2013... Maybe we did have a good May, the persistent decreases on leisure confuse me greatly but at least the standalone routes like Jet2's and Thomson's city routes appear to be doing well, only routes with competition that aren't doing so well.
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Theres no point in comparing like with like snd teying to analyse the statistics for routes like Greek Islands and Cancun etc as they are completely different numbers of flights cw last year and started on different dates. They are statistically not significant.
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Just been looking at seat maps for some of the UA flights to see how its filling , Tomorrows UA159 is the kind of loads needed to secure a yearly service ! 11 of 16 Business beds sold + only 13 Economy plus seats left , Not a seat to be had at the back 👍
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Yes I've been keeping a daily spreadsheet of it all but I've been told the figures are wrong however we will wait and see
So far for the whole of June we are sitting on around 60% full.
However the paper stated the other day that 137 people had there dreams canx.
However someone at the airport said a lot less than that was booked.
Seat plans are meant to not be right however the loads for May is near to what I made it so wait till next month figures come out
So far for the whole of June we are sitting on around 60% full.
However the paper stated the other day that 137 people had there dreams canx.
However someone at the airport said a lot less than that was booked.
Seat plans are meant to not be right however the loads for May is near to what I made it so wait till next month figures come out
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AvHerald said that there were 90 people onboard the flight that returned to EWR. Not entirely sure how many crew are onboard but that suggest the passenger numbers were in the low 80s.
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Titan 757 inbound with a TCX callsign , Surely that A320 hasnt gone tech !
@Vickers - Sure the loads dont mean alot yet , Just was impressed that the front is selling well too
@Vickers - Sure the loads dont mean alot yet , Just was impressed that the front is selling well too