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Old 24th Sep 2014, 21:51
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If I remember correctly, the airport was trying to secure a direct (not necessarily non stop) route to China... But...
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 22:04
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Looking at Newcastle's student population I'm amazed we don't have a daily a380 to Beijing....

Now seriously this is getting carried away
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 22:12
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The Chinese that we are getting at the moment don't want to go back to China.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 23:35
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But they might want to bring family over
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 08:07
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Now seriously this is getting carried away
This thread got carried away a long long time ago. Pinocchio, Aladin and Little Red Riding Hood inhabit the place now.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 15:50
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Why don't we start a fresh and start discussing facts..
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 16:21
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Any news on any take up of the Gatwick route? or even STN which used to carry a hefty number of pax in its heyday.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 16:30
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Here's for the next set of dreams then......

Only chance I would say for STN would be Ryanair now?
Can we expect anything new from Ryanair for next year as they are getting aircraft now.

How about Wizz air for NCL??
They have flights from glasgow and doncaster but ncl sits nicely in the middle.
Didn't they have good loads from DTV to warsaw a few years ago
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 16:40
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Nope. Four airlines could not make LGW work.

BE no longer have a base so they can't operate it and decided they could make more money elsewhere.

Norwegian could make more money flying to beach destinations. Filling a 737 at any meaningful frequency, whilst still turning a profit will be near impossible. Besides, having a non native name operating domestic routes within the UK never worked - just ask Air Berlin.

Ryanair - see above

Eastern - too small a plane, doesn't fit in with LGWs preference for larger planes.

BMIR - too small a plane, and would entail basing another unit to operate LGW at business friendly times. No connections and no feed, unlike their BRU service.

Jet2 - been there, done that.

BA - been there, done that. Even having served the route many years with a loyal following, and connections too, they decided it not worth operating the service. I can't see them coming back.

BACF (ops by Eastern) from LCY - not enough high yielding city types to make it work like IOM did with this set up.

Anyone else would need to operate as a W pattern. And with that the chance of operating a sensible timetable is slim to none.

NCLLGW is a dead route, you'll all see next year when our only London service is LHR. Most of the above can be applied to STN too. LHR is the only sustainable prospect of London, with a balance of O&D and connecting pax.

Any London route has lots of competition from ground transport options with people more inclined to use them if the price is not right which means your yields will never have that much potential throughout the the week, only on a few peak services.

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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:01
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Centrefix25 I can assure you it's not just Pinocchio, Little Red Riding Hood and myself... There are plenty of boring farts here who can't appreciate a discussion. And never will methinks.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:06
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Dubai numbers are high due to the large number of foreign students on the inbound flight, particularly from the far east. Every september this occurs, hence a trend of a rise from August to September
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:10
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EZY

Easyjet will release its summer 2015 flights sometime in October 2014. However, it won’t confirm exactly what date the flights will be on sale. Lets wait and see if NCL get any new surprises.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:15
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It's not a discussion when it involves repeating the same topics month after month when there are no sources or evidence to back up what you are saying.

The subjects of EK 2nd daily, China flight, LGW, Norwegian, EK A380, QR/TK/EY, VS and New York to name a few come up on pretty much every single page on this thread and the only topic which has even the remotest piece of evidence that it might, I repeat might happen, is EK 2nd daily and even then it was said in 2 articles.

It's like a reading a fantasy novel sometimes
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:18
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Pallan, you have summarised that perfectly. Someone give that man a medal! Bravo sir
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:19
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Given the quieter time of year and cheaper flights is it not time to limit the sale of alcohol in airport pubs. We have seen a marked increase in anti social behaviour on flights. Anyone in airport management like to comment or will this interrupt your revenue stream.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:20
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Pallan/Boris1 - agreed

On the subject of China, the only reference I can find is in EK PR puff pieces about the markets that can be accessed via DXB.

No mention I can find about a China service from NCL, direct or otherwise, so unless anybody knows better, we can call that one.

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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:41
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I have said this before but was shot down in flames, however I will reiterate my point.

This USED to be a great place to come for PROPER meaningful discussions, now it is just full of idiots hell bent on spoiling what was a good thing.

Please admins can you stop this constant stream of moronic posts that do nothing but damage the credibility of this site.

The days of sensible people posting sensible, informative items looks as if it has long gone as all we get now is people's ridiculous 'dreams' and constant (and slightly obsessive) posts about Emirates.

What an absolute shame and what an absolute shambles this has all become.

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Old 25th Sep 2014, 18:25
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Perhaps tolerance is the answer, yes I know you all love to be right and deliver us your gushing pessimism but maybe just not say anything when some people are actually having a discission, but I suppose you can confide in the fact you know you'll have the moral support of the rest of the "out with the dreamers" club.

Anyway back to facts, there was a British Airways flight today... In fact there was a few and they all went to LONDON!!! Just Heathrow though, because we could never in the world support a service elsewhere in the capital.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 18:37
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LHR is a megahub. Hence why BA are succesful. If EZY cant make Gatwick work, nobody will.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 18:40
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This is getting ridiculous, you have the same 'discussion' every month and absolutely nothing has changed...?
You say tolerance is the answer... how much tolerance do people have to have to sit and read the same thing over and over again?

And yes, clearly NCL cannot support a flight to another airport in the capital... if FOUR airlines couldn't make a flight to the second largest airport in the country work then yes, NCL cannot support a service to anywhere else in the capital. BA have just increased to 50 flights a week to an airport which is full yet all some talk about is a possible daily flight to LGW which no airline has been able to work

In all seriousness, is there anything the mods can do about this as it is getting beyond a joke - maybe a separate thread for spotters I don't know, but something.
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