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Old 1st Oct 2013, 11:27
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TCx A321's

I don't think canaries or Turkey will be a problem for the A321's... They used an A321 at Newcastle in summer 2004 when I was a dispatcher and it flew to Dalaman, Las Palmas and Paphos from what i remember off the top of my head. If I remember correctly they started using flap 3 takeoffs on both 320 and 321's which solved most of their performance issues(they would tech stop often at MME pre 2002ish) but havn't heard of one making a tech stop since.
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 12:40
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UAE 747

Hi All - The UAE 747 A6-HRM was back at Newcastle this morning and parked near to the terminal rather than on a remote. Boeing 747: 26903 A6-HRM 747-422 United Arab Emirates Newcastle Airport | Flickr - Photo Sharing! Cheers.
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 17:09
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Anybody know the reason for the sudden influx in UAE Gov aircraft this past week at all?
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 19:34
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TCX A321

It seems that the rumour may be true. Some of the seating plans have been changed to A321 layouts on TCX flight only website. It would seem that at the moment it is showing a mixture of A320, B752 and A321. They could be just in the process of updating all the seating plans.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 07:23
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Anybody know the reason for the sudden influx in UAE Gov aircraft this past week at all?
This time every year they come shooting, grouse or whatever shooting season we're in. I'm not part of the yellow corduroy trouser mob so I wouldn't know.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 08:38
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Yes, it's the shooting season, there will also be some executive helicopters involved in the operation.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 16:43
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Thanks for clearing that up guys.

Some people have too much money huh...
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 20:04
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A321

Just noticed, that TCX operate A321's out of Belfast that fly to Larnaca and turkey, which is probably further away, without any problems (I think??) so I dont suppose it would be much of an issue from NCL would it?
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 20:42
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Yes, but Belfast has a much longer runway and, as far as I know, no obstructions at the ends. NCL has a short runway with a big hill at the end of the most commonly used runway, 25. Although I've noticed 07 used a lot more than usual this year, or that's how it's seemed to me anyway.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 20:56
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Ahhh yeah I never thought about that, and yeah 07 is being used a lot more, especially the last few days.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 20:58
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Even with the longer runway TCX uses almost the whole runway taking off from BFS on their A321s.

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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 21:01
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And in NCL's master plan they have scrapped the idea of extending the runway because apparently there isnt need for a runway extension with the advancements in aircraft technology
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 22:27
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MMCMME They certainly have no shortage of money but at least they are spending some of it in the North East.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 08:54
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TCX A321 To SSH

Just booked to SSH in Sept 2014 and my seating plan does indicate A321 Shame to see the end of the 75's at NCL however after being on FCLI yesterday on my return from SSH The 757 TCX Fleet is well past the sell by date and its time TCX move on.... Will always have fond memories of the TCX/TOM/AMY/AMM/AIH 75'S ive been on over the years from NCL and will miss those Rolls engines taking me on my hols!
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 09:29
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TCX seating plans

Can someone post the link to me please as I can't seem to find it

Thanks
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 12:26
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Regarding the A321s, is the problem engine power or purely down to wing design
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 17:47
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As someone has said previously, it shouldn't be a problem doing Paphos, Larnaca or DLM etc. No doubt SSH is gonna be the only problem but just a small one at that really.

On a positive note, and I've got my fingers crossed, it should bring a bit more reliability for the pax of NCL. There's been numerous occasions of huge delays, this summer and previous summers too, so here's hoping we get one of the newly delivered ones (risky proposition, it can be, I know).
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 20:40
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On bad days any flights over 4.5 hours will struggle. We will definitely need to have a new sharkletted one because a 15 year old one wont do it without an even bigger hit.

They wouldn't have switched like this if it was never gonna get off the runway with more than 20 people on, but I think that bringing them straight in like this could perhaps be the wrong decision. I think they should have tried 1 A320, 1 A321, 1 757 first, but. I'm sure they know what they're doing. I hope the A321NEO is built with 757-esque overpoweredness.

The A321 has loads of problems. Engine power, although the most powerful in the family render it relatively underpowered, wings are the same as the rest of the family and thus a bit stubby. Also it's (obviously) a bigger plane, which due to it's length and the same landing gear means a shallower rate of climb during the first few hundred feet which, with a hill at the end of the runway isn't ideal.

I like it when A/C use all of the runway though so I don't mind but I hope we get those 2 extra LS 757's to compensate.
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 20:56
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'The big hill at the end of 25' often gets a mention on this thread.

Can somebody explain which hill it is, and in layman's terms what the effect on operations is?
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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 21:00
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I have been to Banjul in a TCX A321 from Manchester before which is around six hours, plane was full as the subbed two A321 for a B767, not sure if runway length made the difference there though?
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