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Does anyone know what aircraft types are being used for tomorrow for Jet2's two one off flights to Ostend departing NCL tomorrow for the NUFC match?
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Just a few of the domestic route pax figures out from the CAA so far.
Eastern must be doing something right on the ABZ routes with pax for OCT showing at 2,750 up 58% from OCT 11. Maybe its the scheduled use of the Emb.jet as well as the frequency increase that is bringing in the pax.
Eastern must be doing something right on the ABZ routes with pax for OCT showing at 2,750 up 58% from OCT 11. Maybe its the scheduled use of the Emb.jet as well as the frequency increase that is bringing in the pax.
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Excellent news.
On a different note, I saw that TOM have kept the same amount of based aircrafts at NCL for summer 2013.
I haven't came across the TCX release yet for next summer, does anyone know whether there will be the 4 based aircraft again next summer?
Also, if so, will they all actually be TCX's plane as I remember seeing quite a lot in the last couple of years that they have been leasing planes off different operators such as Mint Airways and they were struggling quite a lot at the end of the summer with lots of tech issues all over the shop and the base being affected and stretched due to tech issues of planes down MAN.
Just curious as I know they're reducing their fleet to cope with there debts.
Cheers.
On a different note, I saw that TOM have kept the same amount of based aircrafts at NCL for summer 2013.
I haven't came across the TCX release yet for next summer, does anyone know whether there will be the 4 based aircraft again next summer?
Also, if so, will they all actually be TCX's plane as I remember seeing quite a lot in the last couple of years that they have been leasing planes off different operators such as Mint Airways and they were struggling quite a lot at the end of the summer with lots of tech issues all over the shop and the base being affected and stretched due to tech issues of planes down MAN.
Just curious as I know they're reducing their fleet to cope with there debts.
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The plan for TCX for summer 2013 is 2x 757 and an airbus from a third party. However the charter programme on the airport website and there own booking website shows the need of 4 based aircradft so still a lot of changes before the summer season
The plan for TOM is 3x 738. however there are rumours that the base will be 4x 738 but flights on sale still show as 3x based aircraft.
However TOM holidays did state that the company is ready to increase regional flights for next summer so we wait and see.
Rumours still around that JET2 will be basing 8 aircraft with some of the flights maybe 1 aircraft operating for TCX holidays...
Still cant find any flight numbers for the AXE and LLC weekly planned flights
** NO YYZ NEXT YEAR **
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The plan for TOM is 3x 738. however there are rumours that the base will be 4x 738 but flights on sale still show as 3x based aircraft.
However TOM holidays did state that the company is ready to increase regional flights for next summer so we wait and see.
Rumours still around that JET2 will be basing 8 aircraft with some of the flights maybe 1 aircraft operating for TCX holidays...
Still cant find any flight numbers for the AXE and LLC weekly planned flights
** NO YYZ NEXT YEAR **
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Thanks for the information.
So the A320 will definitely be third party and not TCX? I know they've been using small lynx etc. lately.
Thanks again but it is a shame, I know a lot of people are put off by the fact TCX have had a lot of leased planes off foreign airlines and it is really off putting for some people. If I remember correctly also TCX leased a couple of LS planes last year, on a couple of one offs, so that wouldn't be much of a surprise. I guess it would all depend on the availability of their 733s and 757s.
So the A320 will definitely be third party and not TCX? I know they've been using small lynx etc. lately.
Thanks again but it is a shame, I know a lot of people are put off by the fact TCX have had a lot of leased planes off foreign airlines and it is really off putting for some people. If I remember correctly also TCX leased a couple of LS planes last year, on a couple of one offs, so that wouldn't be much of a surprise. I guess it would all depend on the availability of their 733s and 757s.
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At last night's North East Economic Forum in Newcastle, the speaker, Alex Salmond, was asked if eventual Scottish government control over setting the levels of APD would adversely affect Newcastle Airport by attracting its passengers north.
His response was that Edinburgh and Glasgow Airports wanted to attract passengers from Heathrow, not passengers from Newcastle. Visitor numbers at Edinburgh Castle (a good indicator, apparently) had fallen by 20% during the Olympics as people chose not to visit the UK due to warnings over meltdown at Heathrow. This showed, apparently, the reliance that Scotland had on passengers interlining through Heathrow.
Clearly, should Scottish independence lead to a significant economic upturn north of the border, and a consequent expansion of services and routes from Edinburgh Airport, then growth at Newcastle might be squeezed; however, most commentators - Salmond apart - would class that as highly unlikely. In the meantime, perhaps Newcastle Airport could respond to any perceived 'poaching' by marketing itself as the gateway to southern Scotland?
His response was that Edinburgh and Glasgow Airports wanted to attract passengers from Heathrow, not passengers from Newcastle. Visitor numbers at Edinburgh Castle (a good indicator, apparently) had fallen by 20% during the Olympics as people chose not to visit the UK due to warnings over meltdown at Heathrow. This showed, apparently, the reliance that Scotland had on passengers interlining through Heathrow.
Clearly, should Scottish independence lead to a significant economic upturn north of the border, and a consequent expansion of services and routes from Edinburgh Airport, then growth at Newcastle might be squeezed; however, most commentators - Salmond apart - would class that as highly unlikely. In the meantime, perhaps Newcastle Airport could respond to any perceived 'poaching' by marketing itself as the gateway to southern Scotland?
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S13 Changes
Hi
As i was saying things are changing.
just thought i would take a look and it seems things are changing as just found this
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Orbest monday flight to PMI
arrives 13.45 departs 14:45
could be more will carry on looking
The above flight is for Thomas Cook holidays
As i was saying things are changing.
just thought i would take a look and it seems things are changing as just found this
IWD3414/3
Orbest monday flight to PMI
arrives 13.45 departs 14:45
could be more will carry on looking
The above flight is for Thomas Cook holidays
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constantflyer - If Scotland wins independence and the new Government North of the Boarder scraps APD as they propose Newcastle wont be marketing itself as a gateway to Southern Scotland but rather a giant car park. The effect of the scrapping of APD would have a huge negative impact on Newcastle. The savings of a family travelling, particularly long haul, from Edinburgh would be huge and many will of course make the journey up to Edinburgh in order to save big. This would clearly result in further decline in pax numbers and routes available from NCL as airlines move services to airports across the border quicker than you can say William Wallace.
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While you certainly have a valid point the more savy customers may well travel to save a few pounds many families holidaying still want to travel from their LOCAL airport.
The road trip to EDI is not a pleasant experience as its a single carriageway road for much of the way, clogged with trucks if you time it wrong. The train doesn't go to the airport so that's not a great alternative.
Business travellers won't move to EDI en masse either as they want to travel to where their work is, why spend 2 hours travelling from EDI to a meeting in the North East when your flight from Europe was only 90 minutes in the first place?
A lower or zero rate Scottish APD is certainly a great concern to the airport but not necessarily the doomsday scenario painted here.
The road trip to EDI is not a pleasant experience as its a single carriageway road for much of the way, clogged with trucks if you time it wrong. The train doesn't go to the airport so that's not a great alternative.
Business travellers won't move to EDI en masse either as they want to travel to where their work is, why spend 2 hours travelling from EDI to a meeting in the North East when your flight from Europe was only 90 minutes in the first place?
A lower or zero rate Scottish APD is certainly a great concern to the airport but not necessarily the doomsday scenario painted here.
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There seems to be an assumption here that if the jocks get rid of APD, the airlines operating out of EDI will pass on that benefit in fare levels. If they are sensible businesses, they will just retain the cost reduction as enhanced profit. Why would EZY for eg choose to compete with itself on EDI -ALC or NCL- ALC ? There's very few direct airline competitive routes out of EDI that would motivate one of the competitors to drop fares, and that would only be a short term gain.
Admittedly, low APD in EDI might help any new jock based airline that saw itself in competion with english originating routes.
The bigger risk might be to the East coast and West coast rail franchises.
Admittedly, low APD in EDI might help any new jock based airline that saw itself in competion with english originating routes.
The bigger risk might be to the East coast and West coast rail franchises.
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Newcastle airport says it is hoping to secure agreement from interested airlines in the first half of the year on a plan to resume regular flights to New Zealand.
Customs officials visited the airport in December to inspect the existing terminal and provide their specifications for facilities including baggage search rooms and x-ray services.
Airport business development manager, David Nye says current plans for a small terminal expansion can be modified to cater for international passengers.
"We're in a good position in terms of having the plans in place and it is just a case of continuing dialogue with the border agency group and the airlines," he said.
"If everything goes well, it's still a case of having to build something, but it's not a huge terminal expansion, it will be something modest, but it is more optimistic."
Customs officials visited the airport in December to inspect the existing terminal and provide their specifications for facilities including baggage search rooms and x-ray services.
Airport business development manager, David Nye says current plans for a small terminal expansion can be modified to cater for international passengers.
"We're in a good position in terms of having the plans in place and it is just a case of continuing dialogue with the border agency group and the airlines," he said.
"If everything goes well, it's still a case of having to build something, but it's not a huge terminal expansion, it will be something modest, but it is more optimistic."
F@£K EGNT cannot even sort out an aircrew route through security. Backward. Will never change when local councils are shareholders.
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Scotland APD
First Edinburgh airport is about to get easier to get to for NE travellers, next year the first tram route opens from Princess Street straight to the airport. This effectively means you could get off the train at Edinburgh cross the road and get the tram to the airport.
Finally the airlines would have to pass on the savings with the scrapping of APD. If you read the draft policy document produced by a future Independent Scotland you'll find that the new government will fine airlines that don't! The airlines are also in the business of making money and I have no doubt that easyjet for example will have no calms in removing the last three based aircraft from Newcastle to Edinburgh if they see Edinburgh as a more profitable option. Evidence of this already exists remember the easyjet expansion went into reverse at Newcastle when they opened a competing base at Edinburgh.
I have no doubt that once the word gets out that families could save £400, £500 or £600 by travelling long haul from Edinburgh then they will vote with the wallet and travel up the road. We already have an example of this in Belfast where long haul traffic collapsed as folks travelled from Dublin to save the APD and I can assure you it is a lot easier to get from Newcastle to Edinburgh than from Belfast to Dublin.
Potential Independence for Scotland will have the biggest impact on flights from Newcastle than any other airport in England simply because of its proximity to Scotland and the number of passengers it already has from the boarders area. While the effect on business traffic may not be great, the effect on low cost operations and long haul will be huge.
First Edinburgh airport is about to get easier to get to for NE travellers, next year the first tram route opens from Princess Street straight to the airport. This effectively means you could get off the train at Edinburgh cross the road and get the tram to the airport.
Finally the airlines would have to pass on the savings with the scrapping of APD. If you read the draft policy document produced by a future Independent Scotland you'll find that the new government will fine airlines that don't! The airlines are also in the business of making money and I have no doubt that easyjet for example will have no calms in removing the last three based aircraft from Newcastle to Edinburgh if they see Edinburgh as a more profitable option. Evidence of this already exists remember the easyjet expansion went into reverse at Newcastle when they opened a competing base at Edinburgh.
I have no doubt that once the word gets out that families could save £400, £500 or £600 by travelling long haul from Edinburgh then they will vote with the wallet and travel up the road. We already have an example of this in Belfast where long haul traffic collapsed as folks travelled from Dublin to save the APD and I can assure you it is a lot easier to get from Newcastle to Edinburgh than from Belfast to Dublin.
Potential Independence for Scotland will have the biggest impact on flights from Newcastle than any other airport in England simply because of its proximity to Scotland and the number of passengers it already has from the boarders area. While the effect on business traffic may not be great, the effect on low cost operations and long haul will be huge.
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and of course unless something truly drastic and against the odds occurs then Scotland will continue to be part of the United Kingdom and the waffle of Alex Salmond will drift into oblivion.....
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Edi will be easier to get to from next year when the trams start run??
What is wrong with the airport shuttle buses outside the station it's takes 20 mins?? Can't really see the trams making much difference!!
What is wrong with the airport shuttle buses outside the station it's takes 20 mins?? Can't really see the trams making much difference!!
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I have no doubt that once the word gets out that families could save £400, £500 or £600 by travelling long haul from Edinburgh then they will vote with the wallet and travel up the road. We already have an example of this in Belfast where long haul traffic collapsed as folks travelled from Dublin to save the APD and I can assure you it is a lot easier to get from Newcastle to Edinburgh than from Belfast to Dublin.
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Quote: "There seems to be an assumption here that if the jocks get rid of APD, the airlines operating out of EDI will pass on that benefit in fare levels. If they are sensible businesses, they will just retain the cost reduction as enhanced profit. Why would EZY for eg choose to compete with itself on EDI -ALC or NCL- ALC ? There's very few direct airline competitive routes out of EDI that would motivate one of the competitors to drop fares, and that would only be a short term gain.
Admittedly, low APD in EDI might help any new jock based airline that saw itself in competion with english originating routes.
The bigger risk might be to the East coast and West coast rail franchises."
Differential APD is not a good idea, very low flat rate APD, or better still, no APD is.
Quote: "The above from ABC News Australia reference Newcastle NSW. As much relevance to EGNT as Flights to New York and Alex Salmond harping on about Jock APD."
So it's "Newcastle-Woolsington" from now is it? "Newcastle International" may no longer be unique.
"London-Newcastle"? Just don't go there!
Quote: "and of course unless something truly drastic and against the odds occurs then Scotland will continue to be part of the United Kingdom and the waffle of Alex Salmond will drift into oblivion....."
Hope so! Significant, isn't it, that "wee Eck" doesn't want to have a Scottish pound (punt).
Quote: "Edi will be easier to get to from next year when the trams start run??
What is wrong with the airport shuttle buses outside the station it's takes 20 mins?? Can't really see the trams making much difference!!"
Don't tell me the trams will be up and running soon! Don't believe it!
Admittedly, low APD in EDI might help any new jock based airline that saw itself in competion with english originating routes.
The bigger risk might be to the East coast and West coast rail franchises."
Differential APD is not a good idea, very low flat rate APD, or better still, no APD is.
Quote: "The above from ABC News Australia reference Newcastle NSW. As much relevance to EGNT as Flights to New York and Alex Salmond harping on about Jock APD."
So it's "Newcastle-Woolsington" from now is it? "Newcastle International" may no longer be unique.
"London-Newcastle"? Just don't go there!
Quote: "and of course unless something truly drastic and against the odds occurs then Scotland will continue to be part of the United Kingdom and the waffle of Alex Salmond will drift into oblivion....."
Hope so! Significant, isn't it, that "wee Eck" doesn't want to have a Scottish pound (punt).
Quote: "Edi will be easier to get to from next year when the trams start run??
What is wrong with the airport shuttle buses outside the station it's takes 20 mins?? Can't really see the trams making much difference!!"
Don't tell me the trams will be up and running soon! Don't believe it!