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Old 13th Mar 2011, 16:13
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I used the newcastle-stansted 6 times over the winter. Ah well I will have to try BA and Flybe on this route now
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 16:15
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David Crosby(really???)
I'm not sure flying is a better experience. I'm flying from LHR in April and will get the train down and the coach back. Less chance of luggage going missing, you don't have to arrive 2 hours before the flight, the games they play at security etc...
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 16:40
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YEP, David Crosby but not the singer. I get that a lot. I never have an issue with lost luggage, also I allways arrive 1 hour before the flight and have no issue.
Newcastle Sercurity I allways find like to search me. Every time I go they have to search me. Everytime without a doubt
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 17:03
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Don't forget that the "total journey time" is often longer by plane depending on where you start and end so you can't make a generic statement about it being quicker.
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 17:53
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yes, All depends on place.
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 18:43
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it's the security inconsistencies between airports and within the same airport that irritates me.
And only having 2 machines working when there are long queues.
And coming back and there are huge queues at passport control(and no toilets there at all-is NCL the only airport in the world where people get into the airport with a possible long delay ahead and there are no toilet facilities??)
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 18:47
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Except for the large Female/Male toilets smack bang in the middle of the arrivals lounge
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 18:51
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I think you are missing the point completely.
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 23:15
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East Coast trains are also hitting the london routes with increased trains from Newcastle and introducing new express services which will get you to London in 2hrs 45min (early morning flying scotsman). City centre to City centre journey times like this are getting the bulk of the business traffic the airlines used to.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 15:51
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Most journeys are not 'city centre to city centre' just like most journeys are not 'airport to airport'. It is thus iniquitous to compare rail and air other than on a strictly case-by-case basis. The key thing is that airports and railway stations should be integrated into a transport system that makes changing from one 'mode' to another is simple and straightforward.

I'm sure we can all think of good and bad examples of this:

Good: Southampton - on-site railway station and motorway nearby;
Bad: Teesside - infrequent buses and undeveloped rail potential.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 16:45
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You can get buses every hour from middlesbrough. Ive used it when creating a documentary of Durham Tees Valley. It was a lot cheaper than parking
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 17:31
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You can get buses every hour from middlesbrough. Ive used it when creating a documentary of Durham Tees Valley. It was a lot cheaper than parking
I understood that these were not well patronised even when there were flights, however I gather you could spend a week waiting for a train!
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 23:00
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You can get buses every hour from middlesbrough
...Not much use when you want a bus to Darlington to catch the train to Newcastle. Crazy thing is that the bus times are not synchronised with the times of arriving or departing planes; neither are they conveniently timed for those working at the airport.

I noticed a bus stop outside Newcastle Airport recently, and when I looked at the timetable on it was pleasantly surprised to find some bus times. Mainly to places like Hexham and Blyth, and not very frequent; but it's a start. While it's all very well for locals to get dropped off and picked up by friends and family in the car, many visitors appreciate a decent public transport option, which I feel the Metro provides.
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Old 15th Mar 2011, 08:45
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February Provisional Stats from the CAA:

Brussels: 3257 +35%
Copenhagen: 1146 -20%
Paris CDG: 13138 +9%
Dusseldorf: 2955 +35%
Dublin: 10674 +6%
Amsterdam: 17542 +3%
Dubai: 13326 +3% (85.6% loads based on an A332HD operating every flight).
Gatwick: 6094 -21%
Heathrow: 35229 +2%
Stansted: 9976 -8%
Bristol: 15879 +1%


Pax figures in total, down 3.2% on Feb last year, but there is still some encouraging figures on the scheduled side of things.
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Old 16th Mar 2011, 07:11
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Wonder why such drops on cph and lgw?
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Old 16th Mar 2011, 16:34
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In the case of lgw they seem to have dropped frequency from 4 daily m-f to 3
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Old 16th Mar 2011, 20:18
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LGW

I think it was 3x daily to LGW last winter also.
However thats a big drop in passengers. If I have done the sums correctly it must be about 50% load factor!!.
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Old 16th Mar 2011, 20:30
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The NCL figure to LGW is still double that of LBA, which I thought was also 3 x Daily?, and slightly less than those of NQY.
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Old 16th Mar 2011, 20:32
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That makes it even worse, not sure if there were any weather oriented cancellations, which might help explain it. Hopefully, with STN being dropped, traffic on the Gatwick route might pick up, after all STN carried 9,976 pax in February.
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Old 16th Mar 2011, 23:08
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The new passenger taxes might start to put people off from flying on the UK internal flights.
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