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Latest story I have heard. Make of it what you will, its third hand information.
EZY offered Gate Av a long term handling deal (4+ years) at a reduced rate per turnaround. Gate questioned EZYs commitment to NCL and argued that their continued reduction in aircraft was unworkable with the reduced rate.
EZY called Gates bluff, knowing how much of GAs business was orange... Gate didnt bite at the 'long term bait'... and now this is gonna hurt EZY. Bad feeling amongst crew is that the increased fee they will HAVE to pay at Newcastle will hasten the closure of the base.
I am told that both Gate and Servisair at NCL were good performers. Its a poor EZY management decision. They gambled... and seemingly lost. Sounds like they expected a good deal from a 'desperate' gate. but gate didnt want to play ball.
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EZY offered Gate Av a long term handling deal (4+ years) at a reduced rate per turnaround. Gate questioned EZYs commitment to NCL and argued that their continued reduction in aircraft was unworkable with the reduced rate.
EZY called Gates bluff, knowing how much of GAs business was orange... Gate didnt bite at the 'long term bait'... and now this is gonna hurt EZY. Bad feeling amongst crew is that the increased fee they will HAVE to pay at Newcastle will hasten the closure of the base.
I am told that both Gate and Servisair at NCL were good performers. Its a poor EZY management decision. They gambled... and seemingly lost. Sounds like they expected a good deal from a 'desperate' gate. but gate didnt want to play ball.
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Here we go again with all the resulting paranoia so many willing to put 2 plus 2 to make "X".
I have no reason to believe that "short term" EZY are going anywhere. Reality is that they seem to feel that they can get better returns by placing their resources (aircraft) elsewhere hence the loss of some aircraft.
At the end of the day its as much up to how much the airport value EZY as vital to their business plan. Personally my feeling is that they would be fools if they were to take the more paroachial view that Jet2 / "eggs in one basket" approach would be in the long term a more suitable direction to take. No one seems to question the airport management "think small & you will end up small.."
I have no reason to believe that "short term" EZY are going anywhere. Reality is that they seem to feel that they can get better returns by placing their resources (aircraft) elsewhere hence the loss of some aircraft.
At the end of the day its as much up to how much the airport value EZY as vital to their business plan. Personally my feeling is that they would be fools if they were to take the more paroachial view that Jet2 / "eggs in one basket" approach would be in the long term a more suitable direction to take. No one seems to question the airport management "think small & you will end up small.."
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I agree. EZY should be encouraged to maintain and expand their operation and if NCL is a mainly summer base there is nothing wrong in reducing the fleet in the winter (jet 2 do that).. They could also fly into NCL from other bases if that proved a more financially viable option. This is how Ryanair uses NCL.
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2 plus 2 to make "X"
A once 7 aircraft base which will end up at 3 is every justification for paranoia. If an increase in costs and competition drives down profit margin then the plug is easily pulled, it happened not so long ago in the Midlands.
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A once 7 aircraft base which will end up at 3 is every justification for paranoia
The level of summation and paranoia displayed on this thread recently is barmy.
Can't we get back to normality, i.e. flights to NYC, Emirates putting on 777 thrice daily and say an all business 320 hourly to MME ?
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The number of based aircraft has reduced by 57% but by some peoples logic everything's fine and dandy.
Has any other Easyjet base seen this this % reduction in numbers during the recession, I can't think of any but i'm happy to be informed of any.
Whilst the EZY numbers reduce, TCX and LS have placed (or announced intentions to add) additional aircraft at NCL.
Has any other Easyjet base seen this this % reduction in numbers during the recession, I can't think of any but i'm happy to be informed of any.
Whilst the EZY numbers reduce, TCX and LS have placed (or announced intentions to add) additional aircraft at NCL.
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sincere apologies for the spotter-ish nature of this question and mods feel free to move if inappropriately placed but this is for the more knowing of you posters
I'm off to a wedding in Reus and I'm flying back to NCL before heading off to REU with TCX this coming weekend. I notice TCX operate online check in, do they operate a simple baggage drop desk at NCL or am I best placed to simply wait it out in the standard check in queue? (I refuse to admit my reason for using the flight was to fly a 752
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I'm off to a wedding in Reus and I'm flying back to NCL before heading off to REU with TCX this coming weekend. I notice TCX operate online check in, do they operate a simple baggage drop desk at NCL or am I best placed to simply wait it out in the standard check in queue? (I refuse to admit my reason for using the flight was to fly a 752
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I do think that easyjet days are now numbered at NCL
When set up back in 2003 it was stated that the plan was to have 10 based aircraft within 10 years.... 7 years on we are now back to the start with 3 aircraft!!!!!
days are numbered now somewhere and somehow easyjet and NCL dont seem to be getting on or to argee to where they should be flying too.
Jet2 wouldnt be going to add prague and kakrow if they thought easyjet would add them back into there programme from ncl....
The future at NCL is now RED not ORANGE!!!!!!!!
When set up back in 2003 it was stated that the plan was to have 10 based aircraft within 10 years.... 7 years on we are now back to the start with 3 aircraft!!!!!
days are numbered now somewhere and somehow easyjet and NCL dont seem to be getting on or to argee to where they should be flying too.
Jet2 wouldnt be going to add prague and kakrow if they thought easyjet would add them back into there programme from ncl....
The future at NCL is now RED not ORANGE!!!!!!!!
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EasyJet have closed Dortmund as well as East Midlands. However, with the airline trashing its reputation everywhere this summer it is not obvious to see where it will move the planes if the Newcastle base is closed. The airline needs to rethink what it is doing everywhere, including Newcastle.
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I don't think we can read too much into the rumoured 4 year contract with Gate. We don't know the conditions that EZY were prepared to put into the contract and the clauses, but the fact that Gate found it more beneficial to pull out of it, when it accounted for such a large amount of their work speaks for itself.
It could be that the 4 year deal offered no guarantee of number of based aircraft, in which case in 4 years time, NCL could be a 2 aircraft base, and EZY are still getting cheaper turns than at they are now.
It seems to me that Easyjet took a gamble that Gate would fight to keep their main contract at any cost. Gate weren't prepared to do that, and now its hard to see where they will go next, or what kind of a rate that will get for handling at NCL. As I said before, Servisair have previously terminated a contract with them as it was supposedly unprofitable, so they will no doubt want more money from EZY, and then you wonder if Swissport will be interested at the cost of upsetting their main rival... the rapidly expanding Jet2.
I can't see gate's withdrawl benefitting Easyjet in any way unless another agent steps in. But is another company prepared to take the risk, in the hope of getting a foot in at Newcastle?
RTG!
ps. Does Gate Av operate from any other airports?
It could be that the 4 year deal offered no guarantee of number of based aircraft, in which case in 4 years time, NCL could be a 2 aircraft base, and EZY are still getting cheaper turns than at they are now.
It seems to me that Easyjet took a gamble that Gate would fight to keep their main contract at any cost. Gate weren't prepared to do that, and now its hard to see where they will go next, or what kind of a rate that will get for handling at NCL. As I said before, Servisair have previously terminated a contract with them as it was supposedly unprofitable, so they will no doubt want more money from EZY, and then you wonder if Swissport will be interested at the cost of upsetting their main rival... the rapidly expanding Jet2.
I can't see gate's withdrawl benefitting Easyjet in any way unless another agent steps in. But is another company prepared to take the risk, in the hope of getting a foot in at Newcastle?
RTG!
ps. Does Gate Av operate from any other airports?
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When set up back in 2003 it was stated that the plan was to have 10 based aircraft within 10 years.... 7 years on we are now back to the start with 3 aircraft
When was the last time you saw a 10 year forecast from any company that predicted global strife and major ups and downs?