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Old 16th May 2010, 14:44
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keep the diversion info coming SAM

It should be a busy afternoon for NCL
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Old 16th May 2010, 14:45
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If NCL is open and taking diversions why are all EZY flights cancelled? Some appear to have diverted to other airports eg BHX according to arrivals board. What's going on?
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Old 16th May 2010, 15:52
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NCL's website

Their website (not always the most up to date, but nevertheless) is reporting:

Following yesterday's announcement by the Department for Transport regarding possible closure of UK airspace from today (Sunday 16 May) until Tuesday 18 May, we confirm that Newcastle Airport remains open for inbound and outbound flights. An announcement by National Air Traffic Services this morning does not at this stage indicate any closure of the airspace around Newcastle.We are, however, experiencing some cancellations and delays due to the situation elsewhere. Customers planning to fly to one of the affected areas should check with their airline before setting off to the airport. Graeme Mason, Head of Planning and Coporate Affairs said " At the moment Newcastle is not affected by the higher density ash.The majority of flights are operating as normal, although we are now experiencing some disruption due to the situation in other parts of the country. As the no fly zone extends to several other airports around us, we are now handling a number of diversions".
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Old 16th May 2010, 21:51
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Strange that just about all Easyjet flights to/from NCL either cancelled or diverted today. I thought NCL has been open all day and is still is open now. Yet Jet 2 have done about 10 extra flights from other airports from/ to NCL. ????

Also notice that Easyjet have released the winter 2010/2011 schedule from all UK airports EXCEPT NCL!!!.

Any significance in this.
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Old 16th May 2010, 22:00
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I can't understand what EZY were playing at, unless they made a monunmental misjudgement and thought by diverting early, they would be in a better position when NCL closed. Except of course NCL didn't close, and now aircraft are all over the place, and I would imagine the crewing department at Luton are having a nightmare trying to form some form of schedule for tomorrow.

Still, at least the airport wont be a total ghost town, plenty of Jet2's to keep it busy. I bet their handling agent had fun this afternoon

RTG!
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Old 16th May 2010, 23:37
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NCL and DTV seem to be the only English airports open
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Old 17th May 2010, 07:32
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Easyjet launch

Yeah I saw that too - it does seem strange that they have launched every UK base for Winter 2010 with the exception of Newcastle. This has never happened before, what can this signify?
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Old 17th May 2010, 09:38
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Easyjet

A couple of years ago there was a similar delay when the number of based aircraft was reduced, frequencys cut etc.

I hope something similar or worse is not about to happen. Lets look on the positive side.
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Old 17th May 2010, 10:30
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If flights are on sale for winter apart from ncl how does the flights
Look like from stn,brs,bfs into ncl. Are they using ncl based aircraft?
Should give us an idea of what's happening.
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Old 17th May 2010, 10:53
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It would seem that all BFS flights are currently on sale for winter, with exception of NCL. Belfast did use NCL based aircraft for all flights I think.
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Old 17th May 2010, 11:15
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Inbounds

Hi, there isn't a single inbound or outbound for sale from Newcastle to any UK or intl destination post 30/10/10.
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Old 17th May 2010, 11:44
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Well I tell you that there is considerable unrest amongst the crews at NCL as to EZY's intentions as to it's future plans for the NCL base.
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Old 17th May 2010, 15:08
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Is there still going to be a base at NCL ?. If so whats the problem.
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Old 17th May 2010, 16:43
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The airport handled 19 diversions yesterday.

I must admit I am a little worried about the lack of a winter timetable for NCL. When they used to announce an airport at a time, NCL was often last.

It is only a year since NCL was singled out in the Annual Report as being one of its most profitable bases.
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Old 17th May 2010, 17:40
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Have any tech guys at NCL found any evidence of ash damage to engines?
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Old 17th May 2010, 18:55
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EZY at NCL

Like a few folks on here I am equally concerned about the lack of a Winter timetable from NCL.

I did mention on here 18 months ago, before the closure of EMA was announced, that I was concerned that EZY had lost interest in NCL and we were becomming a stagnant base like EMA at the time. I hope we are not about to follow EMA to closure of an EZY base!

The lack of route development at NCL is concerning. The fact ezy routes are mainly to leisure destinations can't help. EZY has dropped NCL routes to Prague, Berlin and Copenhagen. Had frequencies cut to Stansted, Bristol, Belfast and Paris. Rome, Geneva, Palma and Nice that were initially year round have become seasonal. All this can't help NCLs case.

On the subject of announcing last year that NCL is one of EZY's more profitable bases, I would take this statement with a note of caution. A similar statement concerning how BMI Baby were performing at MME was given before they pulled the base. EZY also gave, I believe a similar statement about EMA just 2 years before they announced the closure. Finally an airline publically issuing a statement about how well an airport is doing appears to be similar to a football Chairman publically saying how well a manager is doing, this normally has the result of a P45 arriving on his desk a week later!

Hopefully ill still be proved wrong
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Old 17th May 2010, 19:27
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My take is that in terms of based units then it's a bit of a numbers game & NCL is on the way down. The op's where BRS based frames commenced operating through NCL on the STN was in my view a nail in the coffin & there is definitely a resignation amongst based crew that the NCL base is contracting and that it could close at some time soon
On a more positive note I do recall that the NCL offering does tend to be placed on the website later than others and I can only summise that this in itself is simply a case seeing what remains after their committed bases have all been sorted. The general trend in any event is further migration and development of their European bases with the ensuing pressure on NCL crews amongst others to operate such routes.
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Old 18th May 2010, 00:24
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I think NCL will see an upgrade definately on the EK route. it's just a matter of when not if. EK are a massively expansionist business, even with the crap dubai is going through, it's still got 140 aircraft on order with 50 options. The other big point to remember is the A332s are the oldest in the fleet with the oldest cabin interior, so they're likely to be the first to go (some of them are approaching 11 years old!)

The question is what to; my bet is the A350s will replace the A332s and the A340s in the fleet. And NCL will be upgraded to either a 772(poss LR) or 77W. If NCL gets the runway extension that was in the 2016 dreambook, then they probably will get the 772. If not I think EK will hold out for the A350.

Of course, in my mind, the goverment should be looking at things and saying heathrow is full, get a high speed railway network that covers the whole damn country (not just up to bloody leeds) And develop Newcastle as a northern hub (but that's just wishful thinking)
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Old 18th May 2010, 06:00
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Especially as they have just become the major sponsor of Durham Cricket Club. Must be focused on the region.
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Old 18th May 2010, 08:52
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There will be NO runway extension and the LR is not suitable!!
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