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Old 26th Jun 2017, 15:06
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When you compare to the rest of UK-DUB routes it's falls way way behind in terms of numbers and frequency
Does it? NCL is comparable with Leeds, has more than EMA, Cardiff.

In terms of pax, LPL has approx 50% more than NCL and is the only airport that looks out of sequence, but there are far stronger ties between the two cities.
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Old 26th Jun 2017, 16:56
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Maybe Ryanair will seize the initiative and and put on another couple of flights per week.

I just think that monthly double digit growth in pax numbers must be worth something to some airline.
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Old 26th Jun 2017, 18:03
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Does it? NCL is comparable with Leeds, has more than EMA, Cardiff.

In terms of pax, LPL has approx 50% more than NCL and is the only airport that looks out of sequence, but there are far stronger ties between the two cities.
Just because there has been a continual increase in percentage PAX for so many months doesn't necessarily mean that will appeal to another airline. See the situation at CWL, DUB lost EIR to BE and AMS had continual monthly increases for over a year, and we didn't see the return of the 4th daily flight.
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Old 26th Jun 2017, 18:18
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Originally Posted by AirGuru View Post
Just because there has been a continual increase in percentage PAX for so many months doesn't necessarily mean that will appeal to another airline. See the situation at CWL, DUB lost EIR to BE and AMS had continual monthly increases for over a year, and we didn't see the return of the 4th daily flight.
AirGuru - you quoted my post then responded to Jamesair's.

I was querying EI-EIDW's comments that:

NCL-DUB has always been an odd route when you compare with the rest of the routes to the UK from both an EI/FR prospective.
When you compare to the rest of UK-DUB routes it's falls way, way behind in terms of numbers and frequency.
This doesn't seem to be supported by the stats.
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Old 26th Jun 2017, 18:48
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Apologies, i was indeed replying to Jamesair's !
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Old 27th Jun 2017, 17:21
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Smart move
LAD Flies From Newcastle To London Via Spain Because It's Cheaper Than Train - LADbible
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Old 28th Jun 2017, 01:29
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LADbible is even worse than the daily mail, I refuse to click into the link

To be fair, off-peak (outside June-September)) holiday destination flights can be quite cheap and trains are very expensive on peak times, I'm sure for every one example of the above you find, you'll find 1000 ones where the opposite you find.

Plus this is one of many many articles, at the end of the day nobody really gives a crap, it's like telling the cashier at a supermarket about your new pet, just pointless information.
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Old 28th Jun 2017, 07:20
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32.99 one way to ALC in August school holidays is cheap justed booked the other day
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Old 28th Jun 2017, 09:17
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That suggests that the growth in capacity is now exceeding demand.
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 09:00
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
That suggests that the growth in capacity is now exceeding demand.
It could also suggest that the yields are so good they can afford to sell the last few seats off cheap.
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 09:12
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or that they are desperate for the cash................... any cash, however small
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 09:56
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Originally Posted by nighthawk117 View Post
It could also suggest that the yields are so good they can afford to sell the last few seats off cheap.
Unfortunately the airline industry does not work like that, if the price is cheap just before the flight then that indicates a poorly loaded, poor yield flight. Look at FR who frequently charge high prices just before the flight (mostly) and where they don't the flights are lightly loaded so they try to cut their losses from an attractive far structure in the hope that ancillary spend will enhance the overall yield.
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 14:23
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Classic economics - nothing is more useless to a business than an unused airline seat - or yesterday's newspaper
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 14:40
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Newcastle Airport reveals 3m terminal extension as part of improvement plans

Newcastle Airport reveals 3m terminal extension as part of improvement plans - Chronicle Live
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 19:16
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Stating that an airline sells off the last few seats cheap on a fully loaded flight just shows a blatant lack of knowledge of airlines pricing structures. Don't talk about things you clearly haven't a clue about!
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 19:32
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I don't have a inside knowledge either, but it occurs to me that if you are TUI or Jet2, and the plane is almost full of IT PAX, then it might be good PR to sell off the remaining seats at bargain prices. Flights to ALC from 30!....
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 19:36
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
I don't have a inside knowledge either, but it occurs to me that if you are TUI or Jet2, and the plane is almost full of IT PAX, then it might be good PR to sell off the remaining seats at bargain prices. Flights to ALC from 30!....
Noone would book full price packages if that was the case...
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 20:39
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Package holiday customers will have no idea how much of their cash is for the holiday and how much for the flight. A lot of people prefer someone else to put their family holiday together.
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 20:45
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I'd argue that that's not correct, I'd say even the least knowledgeable of travellers know that a 30 flight is much better than what they're paying.

I'd like you to point out your example too, using any date in the next week (generous considering it's not even full peak season).
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 20:55
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A little change up the field today with Delta taxiway being out of operation from D4 to D1 meaning aircraft which dont make Charlie have to back track and the biggins like this mornings 787 and 777 have to wait to be marshalled around C to D.

This all due to a sink on the taxiway from an old mineshaft but should be fixed by the weekend!
The sink/hole will be to what I've been advised will be fixed in the next 4-6 weeks.
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