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Old 13th Apr 2017, 17:55
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I always thought that Newcastle was the third largest base for Jet2 in terms of seats available, but it appears from reading all the press releases for summer 18 that East Midlands is larger. The press release says 32 routes and 920,000 seats for summer 18 whereas Newcastle is 31 routes and 880,000 seats with Glasgow close behind on 870,000 seats for summer 18. It be interesting to see how big Stansted will be in Summer 18 too.

Does Jet2 ground handle in house at Newcastle, or is it just check in and customer staff service they have in house at Newcastle? As they have brought all ground handling in house at East Midlands.
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Old 14th Apr 2017, 11:28
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Jet2 is self handling (above wing) which is check in, boarding and ticket sales. Under wing (fuelling, baggage handling and pushback) is done by Swissport.
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Old 14th Apr 2017, 12:34
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Jet2

STN is fourth largest for S17 behind I'm guessing MAN, LBA and EMA.

Definitely some S18 expansion for BHX in the pipeline and would be surprised if STN didn't get another aircraft tbh.

NCL probably sits around their fifth biggest operation, could possibly slip to sixth depending on the scale of BHX expansion.
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Old 14th Apr 2017, 12:40
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Blimey - up to seven based at STN in the first season? Somebodies spotted a gap...

Also interesting to see if EMA and BHX affect each other - that's supposed to be the perceived wisdom. NCL definitely in the slow and steady category for Jet2
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Old 14th Apr 2017, 22:09
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Newcastle pays the bills, East Midlands and Leeds keep the wife happy, but Manchester, Birmingham and Stansted mean you never have to worry about money again while you lie on a sunny Caribbean beach hoping the house boy cleaned the Jag.

Not just with Jet2, that's always been the case, and always will be.

Stansted has 7 based aircraft planned when the base has only been open 2 weeks, it took Newcastle almost a decade to get there
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Old 14th Apr 2017, 22:43
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The gap they're filling at Stansted is one created purely by how easyJet and Ryanair market their flights. It's quite a risky gap...
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Old 14th Apr 2017, 22:44
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The Royal Mail flight was the big money flight for Jet 2 at Newcastle now that has gone you might see a change in loyalty especially when they have got Ryanair on they're case.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 05:54
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So the one Mail flight was supporting all the other based a/c? Might have been true back in the early days of the base, but seems a bit of a stretch.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 08:42
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In other words the mail was the guaranteed banker were as the pax flights are fighting against the opposition for the lowest cut, which the pax demand.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 08:42
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With the Royal Mail aircraft sitting at NCL all day not earning, I'm sure that was the reason for them starting pax operations from the airport in the first place. In the early days it would have provided a nice financial cushion.

I should think the operation is self supporting and profitable now or we wouldn't have 7 based a/c.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 08:53
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Originally Posted by 01475 View Post
The gap they're filling at Stansted is one created purely by how easyJet and Ryanair market their flights. It's quite a risky gap...
Incorrect.

N7, The RM hasn't been big money for several years now, I doubt you will see any change...except to the inside of FE.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Jamesair View Post
With the Royal Mail aircraft sitting at NCL all day not earning.
It was never sat during the day, they just couldn't stick the QC on the long routes because of the extra weight from the door. Thats why they used it on the Prague etc.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 16:43
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You are talking about after they introduced pax service out of NCL, I am talking about the quite long period before that when the a/c did nothing else except the RM runs.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 17:09
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'Tis a strange place is PPRuNe at times. Last week we were discussing the potential 8th LS plane at NCL. One week on we are saying that the Royal Mail flight is the only thing keeping the base going?

If I'm honest I reckon STN has exceeded their expectations big time. Like easyJet they'll figure out there's more money to be made down south and will shift craft accordingly. They'll reduce frequencies and fly fewer, but fuller flights like easyJet did.

That's my thinking anyway! I wonder if they'll be mauled on here like easyJet was (is) on here.
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 19:36
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Ryanair Winter 2017/18

Ryanair Winter 2017 / 18 has been loaded onto the Ryanair website.

All routes remain for the winter period with the exception of PMI and GRO.

Tenerife has increased to 3 x weekly (TUE, WED, FRI)
Gdansk Friday flight time changed from 1840 to 17:55 DEP.
Faro is 2 x weekly (THUR & SUN)

ALC, AGP, ACE, WMI, WRO remain the same as Winter 2016/17 with either no or very minimal time changes.

Good to see more commitment from Ryanair on these routes.

Who knows, we might see more come out...
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 19:50
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One week on we are saying that the Royal Mail flight is the only thing keeping the base going?
No - for a start, the mail flight has stopped.

My understanding is that the RM flight was important in the early days of the base, underpinning it's profitability as it got established (believe the same happened at EDI), but became considerably less important over time.
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Old 16th Apr 2017, 18:00
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and NCL retains the Madrid route for Winter 17/18 at 2 x weekly and Dublin at 13 weekly.......36 weekly flights against 31 for Winter 16/17
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Old 17th Apr 2017, 22:55
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No new routes, but glad to see expansion for the winter season, which is well needed to try and combat seasonality at Newcastle. I'm quite surprised Girona isn't going year round considering it was always a year round route but perhaps that'll come in the future.

Here's hoping for a prosperous Summer 2018 from Ryanair and others.

Am I correct in thinking the Thomson Summer 2018 schedule comes out on 20/04?
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 07:06
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Yes correct for thomson this Thursday
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 21:22
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I'm told from a person who works in the travel agents for Thomson that there is no new routes from NCL.
I'm sure that we have got Dubrovnik back as a cruise and stay but could be wrong
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