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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 21:04
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Might by my perception, but TLV seems to be the new NYC when we have these spates of 'wish list' messages.

Don't particularly want to argue about demographics, but would be surprised if there is anything like the demand to support a service.
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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 21:29
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I too heard easyJet are looking at the TLV service.
The main problem I see that it takes 1 aircraft out for a whole day which could as has been said could have done a double trip to Spain with bar sales etc will make more money.
Maybe a winter only route for easyJet??

ELAL Airlines are in talks with airport but no aircraft until summer 2018 I heard so maybe a little longer to wait and maybe we see there 737-900 at ncl a few times per week
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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 23:21
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Given the demographic El Al would make more sense, I don't know if it's just a rumour but I've heard many times that the specific set of orthodox Jews that live in Bensham, will only travel with El Al. True or not? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised by it

Maybe Up would be a better bet than El Al for our market
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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 23:45
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Hi EK77, I'm prepared to be proved wrong, but I'd be surprised if we see a service to Tel Aviv any time soon. Other than one concentrated pocket in West Gateshead, there isn't a large Jewish population in the North East, and due to the security situation, I can't see Israel being a hit with the notoriously conservative (note the small 'c' ) North East travelling public.


La Palma is an interesting idea, but again, I can't see it any time soon. There is, I think, only one route there from the UK, to and from Gatwick, so there are plenty of places before us in the queue.


(And from a purely and unashamedly selfish point of view, I've visited there and would hate to see it ruined by mass tourism! And El Hierro is even more exotic btw! )
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 08:15
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La Palma is an interesting idea, but again, I can't see it any time soon. There is, I think, only one route there from the UK, to and from Gatwick, so there are plenty of places before us in the queue.
Also a route from MAN to SPC La Palma on Thomson.
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 17:16
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When people say things like 'I've also heard that Easyjet are looking at Tel Aviv service'

Are these facts or just pure speculation or has the tea lady in the Easyjet HQ been telling stories again, it's just wishful thinking by a few on here and I can't see NCL supporting any service to Tel Aviv before the likes of MAN by either Easyjet or El AL and remember EL AL used to serve MAN in the 1990s.

It's the same old story a spotter gets carried away with a rumour and over time it becomes fact based on nothing but just pure speculation and wishful thinking that's all it is to be honest.
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 18:19
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Canberra,

Easyjet (and Monarch) already serve MAN-TLV, Easyjet have done some for about 4-5 years now?
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 18:23
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LAX LHR

Thanks for the correction!

You know I completely forgot about Easyjet and Monarch serving MAN to TLV but that still doesn't make a case for a direct NCL to TLV route regardless of there being a very small Jewish demographic in the Newcastle area.
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 20:47
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United Airlines to stop Belfast to New York flights - BBC News
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 23:01
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So the EU seems to have stopped the NI government giving of incentives to United to run their vital link to the USA.

My question is where does this end? If it's not ok to provide the support, then why is it ok for subsidise flights (highlands or Dundee-STN) and government run airports and sweetheart deals (I'm looking at you CWL).
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Old 5th Nov 2016, 17:32
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It's ok to subsidise flights like Dundee - STN because in the example of that route it was done openly through a proper tender process that anyone could have taken part in.

Airports... well... that's more dodgy. Charleroi is an example of an airport that got stung offering incentives to airlines. Targu Mures is an example of a subsidised airport that's attracted attention...

Cardiff... personally I think it is on dodgy ground. There are arguments on both sides and I see the strengths of both, but personally I'd say the arguments that it's dodgy are slightly stronger than the arguments that it's not. The proximity of Bristol is what differentiates it from somewhere like Stornoway. As for Prestwick, ...
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 11:14
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Sad to see an aircraft retire but at least it's still got life in it. 'EBL was one of our regulars I believe, so it's quite nice to see it having been retired from a Newcastle run. I hope an announcement was made to the passengers. My mam was on a first visiting EK 77W into NCL (A6-ENE I think, definitely A6-EN*) and the captain made an announcement regarding that.

Emirates B777-300ER A6-EBL Positions to Dubai World Central Storage. | Emirates News

Does it happen often that aircraft are retired from, or delivered to NCL? I remember one of the TOM 767's operated it's last flight into NCL and positioned out a few years ago. I think G-GDFL and G-LSAN were also delivered to NCL, or definitely did their first crew training from here, but not 100%

EDIT: Mental to think of the 777 300ER being retired... Is this the first one?
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 13:57
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The two new Sukhoi Jets for City Jet seem to have done a lot of crew training in and out of NCL as did BA's new 787's
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 13:59
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Are we expecting any new route announcements for 2017? There was talk of new routes from Easyjet and possibly another one from Ryanair.....Jet 2 has gone all quiet.
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 13:59
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It was here last night. It's been here on a few occasions now. Seemed to do circuits before going back to Dublin. A smart looking aircraft.
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 15:44
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I'd love to get more route announcements but I doubt we'll hear anything more until W17/18, S18 announcements

Need to try and see Cityjet's SSJ's at some point, EI-FWA/B/C have all been in, 'C is brand new! Wonder why us? Some kind of deal with NCL? Something up their sleeves, possible announcement, maybe a base? Probably just a coincidence though

PH-TFF, TUI Netherland 737 800 came in from Beirut today, departed to Warsaw, anyone know why? Bringing in more refugees?
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 16:36
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It's EK's 1st B77W which retired and went back to lessor AerCap with another 4 (all 2-class - A6-EBA, EBL, EBP, EBS, EBT) to follow. Rossiya will take them.
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 23:16
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So the EU seems to have stopped the NI government giving of incentives to United to run their vital link to the USA.

My question is where does this end? If it's not ok to provide the support, then why is it ok for subsidise flights (highlands or Dundee-STN) and government run airports and sweetheart deals (I'm looking at you CWL).
Yet another reason to get out of the EU as soon as possible.
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 00:36
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Yeah... Because I'm sure Westminster will start throwing money at marginal routes from the regions come 2019...
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 05:08
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They won't be throwing money at routes but they certainly won't stop the funding of vital air links like the EU have done in this instance.
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