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The suggestion seems to be that because KEF didn't work for easyJet at BRS it wouldn't at NCL. I'm a bit surprised to hear that it didn't work at BRS.
The first two complete calendar years saw over 34,000 in 2014 and over 37,000 in 2015 at mainly 2 x weekly in summer and up to 3 x weekly in winter. Broadly the loads spread between 319 and 320 aircraft averaged out between 140 and 145 throughout the year in 2015. Of course we don't know yields.
As yeo valley points out easyJet is stopping the route next week (originally planned to stop in April) but will resume on 27 October at a mixture of 3 x weekly and 2 x weekly. Given that Wow is competing now and easyJet knew this when they decided to resume in October I wonder whether this shows that KEF might well stand a chance at NCL.
The first two complete calendar years saw over 34,000 in 2014 and over 37,000 in 2015 at mainly 2 x weekly in summer and up to 3 x weekly in winter. Broadly the loads spread between 319 and 320 aircraft averaged out between 140 and 145 throughout the year in 2015. Of course we don't know yields.
As yeo valley points out easyJet is stopping the route next week (originally planned to stop in April) but will resume on 27 October at a mixture of 3 x weekly and 2 x weekly. Given that Wow is competing now and easyJet knew this when they decided to resume in October I wonder whether this shows that KEF might well stand a chance at NCL.
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I think WOW would brin more to the table than U2. WOW will ring cheap flights to KEF and for those who are obsessed with hub flights (and who claim NCL doesn't have enough) they will be happy knowing that there are supposed 'low cost' flights to the States.
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"Well from my experience most cleaners no jack ****, you wouldn't believe the crappy rumours some of the cleaners where I work say!"
That's not the question TBH
Are they more accurate than the management or the PR dross is the question - and my experience they often are
That's not the question TBH
Are they more accurate than the management or the PR dross is the question - and my experience they often are
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The north east is really only the part of the U.K. WHICH DOESNT have a link to KEF.
I'm guessing it will be high up in the list.
Easyjet would be good for winter only route.
Wow does open up to a different Hub and a different way to cross the pond.
For easyjet would they make more on a route to KEF or maybe start a route which is traditional more popular like ACE, LPA?
Not sure about the flyin time and current gaps but I'm guessing it won't be a completely new route or a route that hasn't been done before
I'm guessing it will be high up in the list.
Easyjet would be good for winter only route.
Wow does open up to a different Hub and a different way to cross the pond.
For easyjet would they make more on a route to KEF or maybe start a route which is traditional more popular like ACE, LPA?
Not sure about the flyin time and current gaps but I'm guessing it won't be a completely new route or a route that hasn't been done before
Look at the list of destinations available with EZY from BRS and NCL and I'm not sure comparing the two is valid - plenty of other potential destinations apart from the current obsession with KEF.
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I think it's probably a well deserved "obsession" with KEF, it's becoming a huge tourist destination, I still haven't actually met anyone who have said they have no interest in going. Almost everyone has said they definitely want to go (back) and a lot would go if it was more convenient. I reckon whether its EZY on an A319, Wow on an A320, Jet2 on a 733 or Air Iceland on a Dash 8, we're in for a route there in the not too distant future.
I would have said the same about Morocco, but I don't know if the fact it's in North Africa puts some people off at the minute. Even still, Agadir could be a viable Sharm replacement. Why did TOM not go through with it?
Is it confirmed BFS and BRS are going to be operated from those bases? Hopefully schedules won't be detrimentally effected, the opposite maybe? But if that is true that is A LOT of free time EZY will have now, with the frequency reductions where Ryanair are as well, I think 3/4 routes could be feasible, maybe 4/5 if we were to get AMS-NCL-AMS
Interesting question just for fun: "Which of Newcastle's airlines are most likely to get to 4 based aircraft first? Easyjet, Thomson, Thomas cook... Or Ryanair?"
EDIT: Sorry I keep forgetting, we are on A/C 7 for Jet2 this year aren't we?
I would have said the same about Morocco, but I don't know if the fact it's in North Africa puts some people off at the minute. Even still, Agadir could be a viable Sharm replacement. Why did TOM not go through with it?
Is it confirmed BFS and BRS are going to be operated from those bases? Hopefully schedules won't be detrimentally effected, the opposite maybe? But if that is true that is A LOT of free time EZY will have now, with the frequency reductions where Ryanair are as well, I think 3/4 routes could be feasible, maybe 4/5 if we were to get AMS-NCL-AMS
Interesting question just for fun: "Which of Newcastle's airlines are most likely to get to 4 based aircraft first? Easyjet, Thomson, Thomas cook... Or Ryanair?"
EDIT: Sorry I keep forgetting, we are on A/C 7 for Jet2 this year aren't we?
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Aye 6/2 it would probably tip the balance over to a couple thousand more seats over the season than they ever offered with the 757.
However... I must say... How many years now is it we've been promised A/C 8? I'm sure 2017 makes it the 4th, at least 3rd season we've been "promised" 8 based. Fingers crossed for more expansion announced around September/October time though, surely A/C 8 will be doing more than x1 weekly Almeria run
However... I must say... How many years now is it we've been promised A/C 8? I'm sure 2017 makes it the 4th, at least 3rd season we've been "promised" 8 based. Fingers crossed for more expansion announced around September/October time though, surely A/C 8 will be doing more than x1 weekly Almeria run
I'm sure 2017 makes it the 4th, at least 3rd season we've been "promised" 8 based.
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I've heard 8 aircraft thrown about for a long time, definitely before the 757's went because I was hoping for 2 757, 2 733, 4 738
You could argue that yes they have delivered "expansion" but we used to be almost guaranteed 4/5 new routes every year from them, I hope S17 has a similar announcement. Thessaloniki, Kefalonia, Vienna, Budapest... Kos maybe? All seem like gaps Jet2 could fill. 2/3 weekly Paris would be lovely, slightly more affordable than Jet2 and has the advantage of Jet2citybreaks. Berlin I'd rather see Easyjet or Ryanair do but still, would be nice. It would also be very pleasant to see Pula or Venice return. Toulouse, I'm not sure... Did that ever get decent loads, I think it only operated for 1 season. I wonder if Jet2 are stuck for expansion, I can't really think of that much more they might be able to do
You could argue that yes they have delivered "expansion" but we used to be almost guaranteed 4/5 new routes every year from them, I hope S17 has a similar announcement. Thessaloniki, Kefalonia, Vienna, Budapest... Kos maybe? All seem like gaps Jet2 could fill. 2/3 weekly Paris would be lovely, slightly more affordable than Jet2 and has the advantage of Jet2citybreaks. Berlin I'd rather see Easyjet or Ryanair do but still, would be nice. It would also be very pleasant to see Pula or Venice return. Toulouse, I'm not sure... Did that ever get decent loads, I think it only operated for 1 season. I wonder if Jet2 are stuck for expansion, I can't really think of that much more they might be able to do
I appreciate that this is a rumour network but
makes it sound like there have been public statements but now it's
so just gossip? I'm all for giving somebody a hard time if they don't do what they're say they're going to do, but...
How many years now is it we've been promised A/C 8?
I've heard 8 aircraft thrown about for a long time
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I still haven't actually met anyone who have said they have no interest in going [to Iceland]. Almost everyone has said they definitely want to go (back) and a lot would go if it was more convenient.
You seem to move in rarified circles, EK7
Most of the people I know either don't travel abroad, or have a week or two in the sun every summer. Only a minority of folks seem interested in places like Iceland. I did go 6 years ago and it is indeed fantastic. I only met (or heard) one Brit outside of Reykjavik though, I get the feeling that many Brits who go to these places do so to 'tick them off' - ''That's it , I've had my weekend in Reykjavik, so that's Iceland off the list'' sort of thing.
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We can't expect them to keep adding 4/5 routes every year it will slow down but hopefully a few extra flights and the odd route yes.
Not all those routes will work from ncl to make money.
I wish they all did and maybe one day they will.
Innsbruck charter Feb 2017 is to be operated by Austrian airlines
Not all those routes will work from ncl to make money.
I wish they all did and maybe one day they will.
Innsbruck charter Feb 2017 is to be operated by Austrian airlines