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[EK77WNCL]

Well how can a piddly little airfield up in that "north" place be expected to survive? Let alone thrive!

Flights to Heathrow, that's all we'll ever need

[LiamNCL]

Only Emirates will know what is made & 9 Years later they are still here after it was doomed to fail

Anyways enough of that rubbish is Hop still taking over the AF flights from Cityjet ?

[Kev 1]

Emirates

Folks, below are the figures for calendar year (to November) 2015 pulled from the ek source:

Seats available: 268,400
Passengers flown: 212,357
Load Factor: 79.12%

Note that this is based on the mix of two/three class 777 that have flown the route, so its up for debate whether this is the true figure or whether the load factor should be calculated only on two class 777's (as this is what the flight is sold as).

Just to add my two-penneth, I think we are still some way off a 2nd daily Dubai (last time I flew back in November there were only 194 folks in economy, though business was full with 42). In my opinion, we are more likely to see Turkish Airlines (doubt we will see Qatar/Etihad any time soon) appear before we see a 2nd daily Dubai, but again I would also see this as at least a couple of years off - happy to be proved wrong though.

Kev

[EK77WNCL]

Where are those figures on the ek source? I'd love to see

I also wanted to ask, does anyone know the how TOM rotates it's 787's in and out of NCL? Is it a W pattern from LGW/MAN or what? I'm sure they've positioned out empty to GLA and LTN from NCL before as well, Cheers for any help!

[LiamNCL]

Thomson 787s Position empty from LGW , operate NCL-SFB-NCL-CUN-NCL then positions to either EMA-EDI. There is a extra CUN every 2 weeks i think from this summer

[EK77WNCL]

Could a based 787 ever be a possibility in the future? Or part based, positioning from NCL as opposed to from LGW?

I could see the potential for x1 weekly Sanford, 1.5 weekly Cancun, 0.5 weekly Puerto Vallarta and potentially x1 weekly to some "other" destination, like the Dominican, Cuba, maybe even Sri lanka or Thailand... Bangkok/Phuket are some of EK's top destinations from NCL after all

During the downtime TOM could increase capacity on routes like TFS and thus free up a 738 for routes like Cape Verde etc.

[LiamNCL]

Its already part based during Summer for 2 days if thats what you mean ? It wouldnt stick around to do a 738 job though ! I see alot of 787s doing Palma trips though in summer & NCL could easily fill a 787 or 767 on a W Pattern instead of having a 738 go down 2 or 3 times in a single day like last summer

[EK77WNCL]

It would be interesting to see if 4/5 days part based could work, I doubt they'll bother trying but it'd be nice to see some more non-stop exotic destinations. With the popularity of Cancun I could see a fortnightly Puerto Vallarta working at least

[Beatts]

It will be interesting to see what TOM use on the Dubai flights for there cruise this year.

[GrahamK]

Originally Posted by Beatts

It will be interesting to see what TOM use on the Dubai flights for there cruise this year.

787-8 planned

[LiamNCL]

Yeah Thomson will be using 787-800

[GrahamK]

I see TCX are reintroducing LPA on 321 this summer.

And what do we make of the possible FR to Belfast rumour over on the Belfast thread?

[Jamesair]

The article in the Irish Times seems to make it more than a rumour......all will be revealed tomorrow at the press conference.

[HH6702]

Ryanair

Good news for Ryanair adding BFS base if true

If they were to add NCL route I can see a bloodbath happening.
I would say flybe would be first to go.

Maybe easyjet will add more flights to try and keep Ryanair off but can't see it.
Just hope if they did start we don't loose both easyjet and flybe!

[EK77WNCL]

I'd say there's a distinct possibility Ryanair could offer a better schedule than Easyjet in terms of times and probably at lower prices... I wish they wouldn't though! 4 routes at NCL, 1 with competition from 1 airline (DUB) 1 with competition from 2 airlines (BFS) and 2 with competition from 3 airlines (ALC, AGP)!!!!!

Stansted would be nice... Please? Valencia or Seville etc. possibly, having said that PMI, FAO, ACE might be nice and would likely support it. Hoping they have more in the pipeline for us, I think a few based frames and a nice selection of sun/city routes would show them and other airlines what they've been missing out on

[FRatSTN]

I think it's only a matter of time. This is Ryanair after all, I'm sure a base at NCL is inevitable at some point in the future.

[NCL-TRC]

Will be interesting to see what/if anything EZY does to combat this recent FR invasion/expansion.

[FRatSTN]

Judging by previous examples over Europe, either nothing at all or reduce their capacity.

[HeartyMeatballs]

EZY

I think we all know the answer to that.

Lots of local we'll paid jobs with ezy replaced by commuters on zero hour contracts contributing nothing to the local economy. Then once any incentives dry up what will FR do then?

Short term lower fares and increased frequencies to the punters YES
Long term sustainable jobs and investments in the local area NO
When FR spit their dummy out and leave, will the long term impact be positive NO

Theyll come in, make some noise and then long term will do more harm than good. Never mind, the Boeing fan boys and those who still can't accept that London will never be sustainable from NCL except for LHR will be happy.

But seeing the back of EZY at NCL will make some happy on here.

Happy New Year y'all.

[HH6702]

Ryanair

Irish times confirms that ncl is on the list from Belfast.
Let's hope that easyjet and flybe don't run!!

Maybe we may see other routes from Ryanair from ncl too.
Maybe the deal was Ryanair has to do already up and running routes which makes money ALC,AGP,BFS before they will take the risk on new routes from ncl which are currently not served I.e
Bilbao
Saville
Madrid
Lisbon

The list could go on and on