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Old 21st Jul 2015, 01:26
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The three of you have totally disregarded a vital word in my statement, I said in my opinion.

Thought the dreamers/'unrealists' had gone but it seems not.
As for that dig, I am not an 'unrealist' as you put it.
I have an opinion and you are obviously entitled to yours but being called an dreamer/'unrealist' is insulting, have I called you any names no...

This was started by someone changing the wiki entry, I'm just giving my 2c.
I'm not saying a route is going to start, nor am I trying to justify such a route, however in my spotting community there's always been rumours and always will be, you guys need to deal with it and get off your pedestals.

Think people need to face up to the fact that NCL is no MAN/BHX/GLA
I clearly understand the financial implications of starting new routes and the airlines are not attracted to NCL, I work in the airline industry. I understand that NCL has 40 movements a day whereas the likes of MAN has over 200.

Peace.
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Old 21st Jul 2015, 20:10
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Wikipedia page

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Air India good one but we are dreaming !!!

However think back that someone has updated the page late last year and put down United and delta to New York and AA to Washington and we all slated the group again that New York would never happen?

Is there a way to tell who has updated the page?

Could this person have some inside info like the United news?
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Old 21st Jul 2015, 21:13
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Or they could be simply trolling.
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Old 21st Jul 2015, 21:51
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if you put 4 guesses down one of them is eventually bound to be right. Had it been a single comment on the correct operator I might have considered it semi genuine...
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Old 24th Jul 2015, 17:00
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Belfast City for Winter 15/16 is now showing in the Flybe timetable
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 06:31
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Jamesair,

4 x weekly seems to be a pretty pathetic schedule though, especially as EZY have decreased their offering too I believe...how can
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 07:30
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What's the BFS schedule like now?

It could be going the way of the BRS route. Admittedly I use it less now due to the schedule but the flights I do go on are usually extremely busy. Gone are the days when I'd get on a half empty flight, particularly on the morning flights. Between U2 and BE reducing their offering it certainly suggests overcapacity in the market. I remember the day when there were half a dozen flights s day between the two operators.
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 08:29
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Devolving air levy to North East could blow £45m hole in council finances - Chronicle Live
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Old 25th Jul 2015, 08:33
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Graham,

I agree but I suppose they are trying to link capacity to demand on the routes. Now we have to wait to see if the STN route appears in the timetable again
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 14:24
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I clearly understand the financial implications of starting new routes and the airlines are not attracted to NCL, I work in the airline industry.

I understand that NCL has 40 movements a day whereas the likes of MAN has over 200.
Err - lets look at the CAA statistics for May 2015.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...K_Airports.pdf

NCL had 3963 air transport movements in May, an average of 128 per day

MAN had 14776 air transport movements in May, an average of 477 per day

As you work in the airline industry, let's hope that your job doesn't depend on making inaccurate assumptions... At least I suppose you were right in the statement that Manchester has over 200.....
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 00:02
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NCL had 3963 air transport movements in May, an average of 128 per day

MAN had 14776 air transport movements in May, an average of 477 per day
Sorry I didn't have the statistics on hand at the time of posting and I was CLEARLY exaggerating.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 06:45
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
Another thing to consider. United are to switch currently operated Transatlantic flights from 757 aircraft to 767's, moving the 757's to domestic routes.
No the 757's are staying for UK and Ireland.

They get great returns from airports like Dublin and Manchester.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 06:50
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
Careful what you wish for, if they stay with more B788s then regional UK flying will be downsized, the B737MAX is also not ideal. The reason there's been an upsurge in B757s to the US is they're fully depreciated assets working hard at the end of their lives. Not sure BFS/NCL would see much ROI on a new capital intensive fleet of shiny Boeings.

Given Qatar and Etihad are killing each other over scraps in EDI while Emirates remains with the spoils at GLA, I think this might be er.....wrong.
What are you talking about? Currently Belfast is doing well, about 85% load factor. Often 100%.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 12:12
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Originally Posted by owenc
What are you talking about? Currently Belfast is doing well, about 85% load factor. Often 100%.
at peak summer youd expect so. Remind of the frequency, loads and profits mid winter?
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 13:33
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BFS

85% loads on Belfast would put it approx. 6% behind the EZY network average, so no good news there. Helped by the very short sector length though.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 14:15
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Although I think they are talking about United, not EZY!
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Old 29th Jul 2015, 17:13
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So what loads have United achieved at NCL this summer? Intrigued to see if they run it next year.
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Old 29th Jul 2015, 18:55
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Loads are getting better for the last week or so nearly full...

However it was a slow start but you can't expect business people to swap from BA and there points to our route just for a summer season....


Still hope it will return however I'm guessing the loads are currently around 60% for the whole season.

Up the front is selling now so fingers crossed it will return.
Doubt we will find out till mid September
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Old 29th Jul 2015, 20:05
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Originally Posted by HH6702
Loads are getting better for the last week or so nearly full...

However it was a slow start but you can't expect business people to swap from BA and there points to our route just for a summer season....


Still hope it will return however I'm guessing the loads are currently around 60% for the whole season.

Up the front is selling now so fingers crossed it will return.
Doubt we will find out till mid September
Would be very surprised if its canned after just one short season even with these 'moderate' loads.
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Old 29th Jul 2015, 20:27
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I would be surprised too.

A route like this take years to build up.
Look at Emirates !!
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