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Old 16th Apr 2015, 00:39
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- Heathrow up by 7,000 pax (18%) Possible?
- NCL-STN missing
- BFS down 6,000 (33%) hope not!
- SOU up 2000 (28%) hope so!
- 128% up on Brussels... Again hope so but doubtful
- 1000pax (54%) up on Copenhagen?
- 5000pax (45%) up on Paris??? (including over 1000 on charters? What charters?)
- Dusseldorf up over 1000 plus 500 on mystery charters...
- Cork's first increase and Dublin up by 9000 passengers...
- Malta and Definitely Amsterdam looking too enthusiastic!
- Going to give up here... They are almost all wrong by my reckoning!!!

Mind you... 32565 pax on the EK flight (2790 were charters) gives us 123% load factors based on 2 class 77W... Do you think that's enough for an upgrade yet?

Someone gone done f*cked up...
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Old 17th Apr 2015, 09:10
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Thomson Cancun S16

Thomson press release States extra flights to Cancun

Let's hope it's 2x weekly for the whole summer season!!

Doesn't mention NCL for any short haul routes but let's see if there is any increases when they go on sale..

Remember a lot of the increases planned for this summer haven't happened
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Old 18th Apr 2015, 14:37
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I need to go to a meeting in Essex in a couple of weeks and thought it would be an ideal opportunity to try the NCL-STN route.

However, I hadn't realised how bad the flight times are:

Depart NCL 08:45, arrive STN 10:05
Depart STN 16:10, arrive NCL 17:25

To make the return flight you need to be back at STN not much after 15:00 which gives only a 5 hour working window. Presumably day return pax are not FlyBe's target market for this route otherwise there would be a much bigger gap between the flights.
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Old 19th Apr 2015, 13:06
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Boro kick off two-year Leeds Bradford Airport deal with exclusive offers for fans

High flying Boro has announced that Leeds Bradford Airport is now the ‘Official Airport’ of the club.

Boro kick off two-year Leeds Bradford Airport deal with exclusive offers for fans - Gazette Live
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Old 19th Apr 2015, 13:43
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Little bit of a kick in the teeth for the North East's two airports, but I doubt this will really have much effect on the general trend of which airports passengers want to use.

Congrats LBA anyway, it's a canny little airport
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Old 19th Apr 2015, 18:21
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The championship club MFC deal with LBA is basically irrelevant as it is purely a marketing exercise to give away / sell discount flights.
Or from an other perspective then aren't LBA not making use of such marketing promtion with the Chamionship & League One clubs in their own back yard?

The question that should be raised from this is perhaps what marketing initiatives are in place for NCL given that there are two (current ) premier clubs much closer the the form of NCL & SAFC...............?

Is it perhaps that LBA has a much greater need through lack of demand to offload freebies than NCL?
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 16:09
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Looks like the extra Cancun flight is fortnightly, although it does not give start / end dates for Summer 16
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 16:26
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There is also an additional weekly flight to Naples by Thomson/First Choice
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 10:38
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Wizz Air

Do you think that Wizz Air would be a good fit at NCL? They have recently announced some routes to Aberdeen and Bristol and Belfast etc and the frequency is usually pretty low 2/3 per week etc. We are lacking in routes to Eastern Europe, I was just in Budapest last week and it would be so much easier to be able to fly from NCL. Did Easyjet used to do that route in the past? Jet2 fly to Budapest from their other bases so maybe that could be a a future city break route for their holiday operation like the Prague route but I do think some main Eastern European cities on a lower frequency may work.
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 15:41
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Im not sure of demand but would like to see a connection to Iceland
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 16:21
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Do you think that Wizz Air would be a good fit at NCL?
No - not the inward demand

Budapest - did Easyjet used to do that route in the past?
Yes, and didn't Jet2 fly to Budapest as well? If so, there's your clue!
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 17:05
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nothing exciting??

seems like nothing 'out of the ordinary' will ever work from Newcastle or Teesside it's pretty much a desert in this part of the UK!

Just give us Alicante and Palma!

Schedules compared to others areas are pretty poor...never mind the choice..go via Amsterdam!!

So much for routes conferences!!
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 18:35
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Not so much a desert, just one of the poorest areas of the country.

New York, Dubai, Paris, Amsterdam, Brussels, Dusseldorf, Geneva, Copenhagen ain't too shabby for the size of the city.
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 21:51
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CAA STATISTICS

The International stats for March were updated 21/3 but the NCL figures are still mainly inaccurate to many destinations.
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A380s ruled out in Masterplan

In response to an earlier post from someone querying the possibility of A380 operating (maybe a one-off to celebrate 10 years of Emirates etc..), Newcastle Airport state in their Masterplan they will not be able to operate A380s due to operational constraints

(from Annex C FAQs in Masterplan - Page 38) http://www.newcastleairport.com/Medi...ne-2014-lr.pdf

What is the largest aircraft you expect to operate from the airport? Will there be larger aircraft operating from the airport?

Towards the end of the masterplan period we expect to accommodate more frequent larger aircraft, to facilitate long haul destinations. However, the type of aircraft will be similar to the largest aircraft currently operating from the airport, which is the B777. As new aircraft are introduced to the flying schedule we always encourage airlines to operate the most environmentally friendly aircraft.

Due to operational constraints we will not be able to operate the likes of an A380 which are the largest aircraft currently operating in the UK

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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 07:45
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Thomson 2016

Ok here's the news

Naples 2x weekly
Monday flight added which replaces the LPA
LPA flight now shows TBA

Cancun 2x weekly
New flight added on Wednesdays

Palma flight on a Thursday is to be operated by AEA!

That's all for now
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 08:25
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I think Eastern Europe has been 'done' and just doesn't seem as popular as it once was. Been a long time since I've seen anyone I know head East for a stag/hen weekend. It was once a cheap weekend away but that is no longer the case.

I think Wizz could work but mainly on the point of serving people from Eastern Europe to commute to and from home, along with additional tourist from here visiting there.

I think NCL does very well in terms of the amount of destinations. People seem to think it warrants direct flights to literally everywhere with an airstrip, but that simply will not work. As it stands airline ops seem right sized for NCL with good choice of destinations. There are half a dozen network carriers serving NCL with thousands of destinations one stop via their hub if you do want somewhere 'out of the ordinary'.
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Apologies if I've missed it but I don't think we are getting a Dreamliner, are we?

""Meanwhile, additional flights to Cancun, Mexico on the Dreamliner will be offered from both Newcastle and Glasgow. The fortnightly summer 2016 service to Mexico from Newcastle will be complement by additional seats in existing markets, including an additional weekly flight to Naples, Italy.""

Thomson Holidays Boosts UK Leisure Offering for Summer 2016 :: Routesonline
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 14:06
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The Dreamliner will operate the weekly Orlando and Mexico this summer (2015) and next (2016). The additional Dreamliner fortnightly to Mexico is for next summer 2016.

So yes you are getting a Dreamliner, 2 days per week now, rising to 3 days every other week in 2016.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 14:08
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Wow!
I just wish I wanted to go to Orlando or Mexico......
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